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4/10/07 12:20:32 PM

you did read it right?

Annual Average Global Emissions of HCl, HF, and HBr, in Tg

Source
\t

HCl HF HBr

Volcanoesn 7.8 0.4 0.078

Oceans 300 0.02 1

Coal combustion
\t
1.8 0.18 0.08

Petroleum combustion
\t0.013 0.00036

Natural gas combustion
.0022

natural gas plus petro plus coal doesnt equal 7.8 much less 150 times volcanos
thanx,
bill

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Post #281,231

by Another Scott

4/10/07 12:26:29 PM

HCl is not CO2.

Volcanoes pump a lot of stuff into the air - including hydrochloric acid (HCl), hydrofluoric acid (HF) and hydrogen bromide (HBr). They're not a major source of carbon dioxide in comparison of us burning stuff. The CO2 numbers are from the Nature papers I excerpted.

Cheers,
Scott.

MIT steps into the climate debate - (boxley) - (58) - April 9, 2007, 05:42:48 PM EDT

some nice rants in the comments section - (boxley) - April 9, 2007, 05:50:07 PM EDT

also some thoughtful questions from a lay person - (boxley) - (12) - April 9, 2007, 05:58:44 PM EDT

rand, what do you think of this person's questions? - (boxley) - (11) - April 9, 2007, 09:59:01 PM EDT

frankly, he sounds like a twit - (rcareaga) - (10) - April 9, 2007, 11:26:32 PM EDT

Thats funny. - (bepatient) - (3) - April 10, 2007, 01:13:15 AM EDT

"instead of just knee-jerking into a thread... - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 10, 2007, 01:17:25 AM EDT

I'm quite over myself. - (bepatient) - April 10, 2007, 01:42:57 AM EDT

On methane: See #26566. - (Another Scott) - April 10, 2007, 07:31:21 AM EDT

thanks for the detailed reply - (boxley) - (5) - April 10, 2007, 08:28:49 AM EDT

I don't think your numbers are quite right. - (Another Scott) - (4) - April 10, 2007, 08:53:16 AM EDT

nice try, an assertion that man is 150* volcano - (boxley) - (3) - April 10, 2007, 10:50:12 AM EDT

Here ya go. - (Another Scott) - (2) - April 10, 2007, 11:59:50 AM EDT

you did read it right? - (boxley) - (1) - April 10, 2007, 12:20:32 PM EDT

HCl is not CO2. - (Another Scott) - April 10, 2007, 12:26:29 PM EDT

Your MIT "authority" is a farking shill - (rcareaga) - (43) - April 9, 2007, 08:37:06 PM EDT

farking shill with GOOD credentials, better than gores -NT - (boxley) - (11) - April 9, 2007, 08:47:49 PM EDT

Did you perhaps miss the meaning of "shill"? -NT - (Silverlock) - (10) - April 9, 2007, 08:52:44 PM EDT

Of course he is. - (bepatient) - (1) - April 9, 2007, 08:57:36 PM EDT

Follow the money. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 9, 2007, 09:23:38 PM EDT

so the great gore, inventor of the internet is not a shill? - (boxley) - (7) - April 9, 2007, 09:15:09 PM EDT

Followthe money -NT - (Silverlock) - (6) - April 9, 2007, 09:23:58 PM EDT

Right into Gore's pocket? - (bepatient) - (1) - April 9, 2007, 09:33:00 PM EDT

Do you even believe the words you write? -NT - (Silverlock) - April 9, 2007, 09:39:50 PM EDT

I do, it leads to trading credits, a new market woth billion - (boxley) - (3) - April 9, 2007, 09:36:14 PM EDT

Find a rail. Get back on it. -NT - (Silverlock) - (2) - April 9, 2007, 09:40:55 PM EDT

You deny this? Back it up. - (bepatient) - April 9, 2007, 09:47:24 PM EDT

ya do rails you dont get on them, fact got yer tongue? -NT - (boxley) - April 9, 2007, 09:56:10 PM EDT

Dunno. - (Another Scott) - (30) - April 9, 2007, 09:54:26 PM EDT

Re: Dunno. - (rcareaga) - (29) - April 9, 2007, 10:17:35 PM EDT

Touch\ufffd. :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (28) - April 9, 2007, 10:21:31 PM EDT

And how much money is on the "good" side? - (bepatient) - (27) - April 9, 2007, 10:22:57 PM EDT

Compared to? - (imric) - (26) - April 9, 2007, 10:50:16 PM EDT

Why research grants, of course. - (bepatient) - (25) - April 9, 2007, 11:00:14 PM EDT

I want to see proof. Show me the money. - (imric) - (24) - April 10, 2007, 06:58:23 AM EDT

"promote global warming"? - (pwhysall) - April 10, 2007, 07:16:02 AM EDT

Not nearly the point - (bepatient) - (8) - April 10, 2007, 08:01:34 AM EDT

Something on the numbers - (bepatient) - (1) - April 10, 2007, 10:31:47 AM EDT

dont forget the gummit scammers - (boxley) - April 10, 2007, 10:52:42 AM EDT

I don't really care - (tuberculosis) - (5) - April 10, 2007, 12:10:01 PM EDT

work on it sure, but taxing the crap out of western civ, no -NT - (boxley) - (4) - April 10, 2007, 12:21:31 PM EDT

Change requires motivation - pain works -NT - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 10, 2007, 03:38:29 PM EDT

change requires innovation not pain - (boxley) - (2) - April 10, 2007, 03:41:36 PM EDT

grapes of folly - (rcareaga) - (1) - April 10, 2007, 04:07:03 PM EDT

I was refering to the EU's and UK stance on SA flowers - (boxley) - April 10, 2007, 04:51:52 PM EDT

There's a documentary that aired last month, - (Steve Lowe) - (13) - April 10, 2007, 12:56:33 PM EDT

"swindle" is right - (rcareaga) - (12) - April 10, 2007, 03:41:49 PM EDT

same as gore's movie -NT - (boxley) - (11) - April 10, 2007, 03:45:13 PM EDT

a link - (bepatient) - April 10, 2007, 04:00:12 PM EDT

Which scientist complains of Gore's twisting his views? -NT - (Silverlock) - (9) - April 10, 2007, 04:10:32 PM EDT

Well, my Google-fu is merely average - (Ashton) - (2) - April 25, 2007, 06:26:09 PM EDT

You notice I only asked for one. -NT - (Silverlock) - April 25, 2007, 07:36:45 PM EDT

Gore did apparently get some things wrong. - (Another Scott) - April 25, 2007, 08:01:15 PM EDT

two lazy to look, now explain different sized co2 molecules - (boxley) - (5) - April 25, 2007, 07:57:16 PM EDT

Carbon has several isotopes. - (Another Scott) - (4) - May 7, 2007, 08:21:36 PM EDT

so co2 from cars is much more dangerous than bbqing? -NT - (boxley) - (3) - April 25, 2007, 09:59:19 PM EDT

No. - (Another Scott) - (2) - April 25, 2007, 11:09:54 PM EDT

"Burning wood isn't as bad as burning coal" - (boxley) - (1) - April 26, 2007, 07:35:10 AM EDT

Yes. Did I say something you disagree with? -NT - (Another Scott) - April 26, 2007, 07:36:34 AM EDT

*plonk*
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