Post #273,877
11/25/06 5:49:49 PM
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I hope not
The sad thing is, I have numerous programs written pre-Windows days that barely work on it, and absolutely refuse to work on anything newer. So, until I can find suitable replacements (or write my own) I need to keep this box alive.
Potentially good news: the wife has approved the idea of getting a new PC for the kids to do school work on, which will free up a 600 Mhz Pentium III machine for other uses around the house (dare I say the word Ubuntu ... of course, it is TBD if Ubuntu can run on such an "underpowered" box.
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
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Post #273,879
11/25/06 6:33:37 PM
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If you have old software you need to keep running
consider warp. It will run that stuff and run it well. It'll also run like stink on the machine you're talking about above.
It's probably the best system extant for compatibility with old software like that.
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Post #273,885
11/25/06 7:28:19 PM
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One of my most profitable clients is running . . .
. . MS-DOS programs I wrote in Turbo Pascal many years ago - plus they're still running a DOS version of BusinessWorks accounting (which Sage said wasn't Y2K compliant - but guess what). They're running all this on OS/2, often two or three instances of each program on each workstation so they can be in different parts of the program at the same time.
All these programs run like stink, without flaw and never crash. It's a heavily networked environment and the fax server (FaxWorks LAN for OS/2) is busy all day supporting outgoing traffic from 12 workstations. They have redundant servers running Debian Sarge.
Their competitors are completely mystified how then can instantly answer inquiries that require a "Let me call you back on that" everywhere else.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #273,880
11/25/06 6:38:41 PM
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Do you mean pre-Win MS-DOS programs that you want to keep?
DOSEMU works very nice for that.
[link|http://www.dosemu.org/|http://www.dosemu.org/]
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Post #273,881
11/25/06 6:55:43 PM
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Depends on what you mean by "run".
of course, it is TBD if Ubuntu can run on such an "underpowered" box. [link|https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/hardware-req.html|This] Ubuntu page gives the system requirements. As long as you've got a 32-bit x86 processor, 32 MB of RAM, and 190 MB of disk space, you can install a "base" system. For the full default installation of Ubuntu you need 128 MB of RAM and 2 GB of disk space. If you're worried about speed, you apparently want to use [link|https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/installation-guide/i386/hardware-req.html|Xubuntu] which uses the lighter-weight Xfce desktop environment. Cheers, Scott. (Who is using Kubuntu and is having good luck with it on a 1.7 GHz Pentium M T41 laptop with 2 GB RAM.)
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Post #273,907
11/26/06 12:55:01 AM
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Depends on what you're running
Ubuntu here on a 500mHz w/ 256M and it does fine. Granted, I'm mostly running Firefox, but it's generally responsive. Oh, except for that annoying bug where it'll hang on iowait for 20-30 seconds.
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Post #273,942
11/26/06 4:15:28 PM
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Is that a bug with Firefox
or something in the way Firefox interacts with Ubuntu?
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
[link|mailto:golf_lover44@yahoo.com|contact me]
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Post #273,948
11/26/06 4:32:48 PM
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No, it's apparently a specific kernel/file system issue.
IOW, it depends on the details of your hardware and kernel.
Check [link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=272814|this] thread for the details. If you're worried about it on your hardware, try the live CD for a while to see.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #273,987
11/26/06 8:49:03 PM
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New kernel still shows the same behavior
I no longer have a five-minute wait for the restricted modules to load when booting, so that's a plus. But the iowait hang is still happening. I'll just keep my eyes open for new kernel or filesystem options.
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Post #274,281
11/28/06 9:03:01 PM
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It was seen in x86-64 kernels too.
[link|http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-394.html|Ubuntu Forums]: [...]
So I tried the usual disable ACPI and APIC to see if that resolved any issues. In my case disabling APIC did nothing and disabling ACPI made it so my system would not boot. It would freeze loading the orinoco_pci driver.
After a bit of googling I came across a post of a Fedora user with the same motherboard having the same issues. He said to put this in the Grub.conf file at the end of the kernel line (/boot/grub/menu.lst on Ubuntu):
noapic pci=usepirqmask
Having placed this in my menu.lst file and rebooting my heavy load IDE DMA reset issues are gone.
[...] Read the whole thread - maybe some of it applies. HTH a bit. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #274,293
11/28/06 10:25:30 PM
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Just added the two parameters, will update after next reboot
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Kip Hawley is still an idiot.
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Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link|http://DocHope.com|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats].
[link|http://DocHope.com|http://DocHope.com]
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Post #274,052
11/27/06 11:38:22 AM
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400 Mhz PII, 256Mg RAM, 40G HD, 8Mg video RAM
everything's original except for the additional 40G HD I added 2 years after purchase.
On the face of it, it sounds like this should be okay.
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
Never apply a Star Trek solution to a Babylon 5 problem.
I am not merely a "consumer" or a "taxpayer". I am a Citizen of the United States.
[link|mailto:golf_lover44@yahoo.com|contact me]
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