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I'm sure your aunt was thinking: " If you only knew how happy you've made me!"

from Raymond Carvers' poem

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Our thoughts are with you.

New Carl... words fail me.
I read the poem you sent me to, and I absolutely had chills. I also read it to my cousin Katie with the same result.

You see, at the last minute today the minister decided to ask everyone to contribute something to the Eulogy. I have been unable to even begin to think straight and write anything, but the poem summed the last few days up in a heartbeat!

I am taking the poetic license liberty of changing the first two lines, since she was not hooked up to any tubes or anything, but she was in a hospital bed:

If I'm lucky, I'll be home with my family,
Maybe in a hospital bed. I might look frail and pale.
But try not to be scared of me friends....(etc.)

I will of course credit the author, and indicate I revised a few lines, (changing he to she, for example as well), but this poem was meant to be read on Thursday as my contribution to the Eulogy, and will be, with proper credit to yourself and IWT.

Thank you from the bottom of my heart. :)

Brenda



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
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"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
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"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
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New You're welcome, Brenda.
We're all in this boat together. Come back to these forums when you can, we'll be waiting.
New Thanks, and Hey guys, I really need some advice here?
We're all in this boat together. Come back to these forums when you can, we'll be waiting.


Thanks Carl. Actually, I kinda need some support this morning. As if I wasn't nervous enough about going to this wake all night tonight, and tomorrow's funeral, now my crazy cousin (the one who got drunk and high and tried to vault over the counter in the E.R. last year when they wouldn't let her into her dad's surgery room), is acting crazy, fighting with Katie's kids and planning to show up drunk and possibly high tonight at the wake.

I barely coped with her the first time she went nutso on booze and drugs, and now she's going to most likely cause a scene at the funeral home.

My question to all of you here is this, if she shows up and acts crazy, can the funeral home assist us in getting her under control, or should we be prepared to call the police?

Also, she was sneaking the booze at the hospital before, if we catch that she is going outside and drinking and getting drunker and drunker, what course of action would you recommend?

Both of Katie's daughters are so mad at her they're ready to knock her flat, right there in the Funeral home, but of course Katie is appalled at the idea of a fist fight breaking out at her mother's wake.

And I thought all I had to do was cope with the concept of being at a funeral! I think I might need a flak vest and a crash helmet for this one!

Strength.... I am praying for strength, patience and courage to get through this one....

Brenda



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 8, 2006, 09:28:15 AM EST
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 8, 2006, 09:40:35 AM EST
New Re: Thanks, and Hey guys, I really need some advice here?
Hi Brenda.

This is only my opinion, for what that's worth.

I would be prepared to call the police. It is, after all, disorderly conduct, and there's this:

[link|http://www.leg.wa.gov/pub/billinfo/2005-06/Pdf/Bill%20Reports/House/3293-S.HBR.pdf|http://www.leg.wa.go...se/3293-S.HBR.pdf]

The funeral home employees and you really shouldn't be expected to cope with unruly people in this context. Bad apples aside, the police really are around to keep things going smoothly. Maybe you could talk to one ahead of time.

My 2 cents.
New I agree about the police...
That was the first thing I thought of, even though it would also make a scene, if the male relatives aren't able to get her out of the building.

But my biggest fear is that she'll be going to the car and drinking (sneaking booze) and smoking pot every few minutes like at the hospital. I know I'll spot that, because I plan to be on the alert for it this time. We weren't aware what she was doing at the hospital until it was too late.

But we can't get her arrested for drinking in the car and coming back can we? Is there any course of action for that? I thought maybe trying to pour out her booze or something but that might incite her worse.

Thanks, and please have lots of prayer and good thoughts today that we can prevent this disaster from occurring tonight and tomorrow.

Brenda

P.S. Thanks Carl, I printed out that info and I plan to take it with me. I also was trying to find the Granite City police phone number but hopefully there will be someone at the Funeral home who will know that.



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 8, 2006, 10:49:07 AM EST
New I'm with him ^ simp,ly do not tolerate that.
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Steve
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New Brenda, sorry for your loss
the drunk crazy relative is not YOUR responsibility, just stay out of it and away from her. Let Kate's kids kick her ass, its not YOUR problem, you have enough on your plate.
thanx,
bill
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 50 years. meep
New Bipeds can be like that -
and the larger the family, the more apt a one is, to encounter some Bad Seed\ufffd.

Believe Box's advice is al punte. 'Reasoning-with' is reserved for those rare cases where Reason is wearing her blue dress. I'd suppose too, that any in-family vigilantes? would have all that real-or-supposed baggage == well-meaning intervention merely stirs up all the unexpressed resentment in your problem child.

(Sounds as if this one needs some other kinds of 'intervention', generally; doesn't guarantee that she could be talked into it, natch - see how lucky you are that she doesn't live within a few blocks?)

When ya can't even send a Viking off in a longboat, shield&spear across the chest - without someone trying to sink it ... ... call the Boys in Blue.


Sorry about cosmic humor screwing up a decent farewell, Buck Up!


A.

New Thank you, Ashton! -- And here's how things went!
That was just what I needed to read before heading to bed tonight.

Update on things, I made it, I survived, I didn't hyperventilate (although if you touched me it was very obvious I was shaking a lot)....my panic anxiety was definitely there, and my heart raced off and on all night until John walked in the door around 7, but I stayed on my feet and functional and that was what I needed to do!

And get this, (and I realize it might not seem like a big deal for some of you, but that's ok), when my sister called in a panic saying she wasn't going to make it to St. Louis in time to get me to the wake at 3:00 p.m., I DROVE THERE MYSELF!

Anyone who knows my fears of playing around anywhere near Hwy 270 and 203,179. 178, etc.... because I tend to wind up in East St. Louis... (not somewhere I want to wind up), will recognize this as a major thing. Mom stayed home and waited for my sister, and I took my dad in my own car to Illinois by myself (as in - without John), and we got there fine. :) And amazingly, Dad said he was PROUD of me! I've always been the daughter who "would get lost", "wouldn't know what I was doing", "Couldn't do this or that" and today I proved otherwise (something I've known a long time but he would never concede), and man, hearing those words, unsolicited from dad... priceless and unforgettable. Being able to drive there though, I must admit, amazed even me, so I'm driving myself there again tomorrow, this time ALONE. :)

This has truly been a day of amazing firsts for me. Drove to and from Granite City in my car without John (but he led me out to the highway on the way home); Stayed from 2:30 till 9:30 p.m. at the Funeral Home without hyperventilating or passing out; and even (gasp) walked escorted (and shaking), to the casket and placed a Christmas card I had purchased for Jeffie, inside by her--THAT was the really hard one. ;)

Crazy aforementioned cousin arrived and was most definitely already "spacey" in some manner, but between all of us who encouraged her to be calm and kept her busy doing things to keep her mind off the "falling apart" aspect, there were NO incidents. (huge sigh).

Tomorrow is the actual funeral and graveside service, then back to the church for the dinner afterwards. I suspect if things are going to erupt with the afore mentioned cousin, it will probably be there, after we've coped with the cemetery and such. So I have a nice "armored" car (commonly fondly referred to by people as a "tank"), that will be there if I need to get inside and lock all the doors to avoid the combatants. ;)

So, now I need a good night's sleep, to be ready for tomorrow. Thank you ALL for your support and prayers, God did indeed make this all work. Now I just have one more day to deal with it and I get a break on Friday...away from the family. ;)

And the icing on the cake? I got an e-mail from Katie tonight afterwards telling me she didn't know how she would have ever gotten through tonight, had she not been able to glance through that crowd and see me there standing by if she needed me. Wow. What can I say. The chaotic events between the moment we became friends 3 years ago and today, suddenly seem so unimportant, and so meaningless, in the face of this friendship.

Brenda

P.S. If anyone would like to see what Aunt Jeffie looked like, there's a shot of her in 2004 on the home page of my family group. You don't have to do anything but go to the link and view the picture, the group is public. The shot is of me presenting to her the new and improved "old" Turnbow book (you know, the one I managed to get reprinted and bound in 2004), to her for the very first time. That's a memory I'm keeping forever. You can view the photo at the link below. She would have been about 95 or 96 then. She actually has the 3 ring version on her lap, it was created before we got the binding place worked out. :)

[link|http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Theturnbowtree/|http://groups.yahoo....p/Theturnbowtree/]



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 9, 2006, 03:04:29 AM EST
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 9, 2006, 03:06:28 AM EST
New Follow up -- stopped a panic attack in progress! :)
In a nutshell, (cause I already wrote a long enough post about the wake), I started shaking on my way to the funeral in Illinois in the car (first time I ever tried to drive there alone), and missed my exit. Hyperventilated some, but managed to get to the next exit, pull off and into a Mobil station.

Had the presence of mind to tell a patron of the station I was having a panic attack, and to get him to get me water (my cup had gotten trapped on the door handle)- and to get him to call someone.

Result? I managed to calm myself, breathe, wait for my cousin Howard, get back into the car and DRIVE to the church. :)

The rest of the day, (although really hard at times), was a piece of cake after that. ;)

Ready for some much needed rest.

Brenda



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
New Re: Follow up --
Y'see?

When you just STOP...

breathe ... ... ... (again)

The Bluebird of Happiness can fly up even an owl's nose
[Secret known only to the Ancients: every second, we create our own Reality; be a Director! not a lighting technician?]










Now when you get your new 250 cc motorcycle - you can Take Charge.
When the fambly sees you in Leathers, muttering softly .. Nobody fucks with Paul Lazzarro... no. more. dung. will be slung.
New Actually, I couldn't remember how to breathe...
Y'see?


When you just STOP...


breathe ... ... ... (again)


I seem to always forget how to breathe when I'm actually panicking, so I'm thinking of writing it down on a card to have handy to tell me.

The way I fixed it and managed to calm my breathing was by sitting on the hood of my car and SINGING at the top of my lungs. "Sunshine.... on my shoulders.... makes me happy..." to my John Denver tape in the car.

I was so busy trying to sing I forgot to hyperventilate. ;) I am surprised the police didn't wonder about me though. ;)

Brenda



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
Expand Edited by Nightowl Nov. 14, 2006, 02:44:23 AM EST
New Thanks for the update....
These things have a way of working themselves out. Good luck at the church.
New I did fine at the church
I had actually already done the entire rest of the funeral before my follow up post. :) I coped better at the church than I thought I would, and even coped fairly well at the gravesite.

But this doesn't mean I plan on making funeral attendance a habit! ;)

Brenda

P.S. My muscles are STILL sore from the fight flight response for almost 48 hours. But it's nice to know I can do it when I have to. :)



"When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert
****************************

"Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss
***********************************

"Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06
*********************************
New Bravo!
(Er, to be quite linguistically-correct, that should be "Brava", I suppose. Same thing, only for girl owls, you see?)


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     My Aunt Jeffie (dad's sister) died Sunday - (Nightowl) - (24)
         Bummer - (imric)
         She had a very long life. Condolences to you and yours. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Condolences. - (Steve Lowe)
         It is very sad to say those final goodbyes. :( - (a6l6e6x)
         Sincere condolences - (dmcarls) - (15)
             Carl... words fail me. - (Nightowl) - (14)
                 You're welcome, Brenda. - (dmcarls) - (13)
                     Thanks, and Hey guys, I really need some advice here? - (Nightowl) - (12)
                         Re: Thanks, and Hey guys, I really need some advice here? - (dmcarls) - (1)
                             I agree about the police... - (Nightowl)
                         I'm with him ^ simp,ly do not tolerate that. -NT - (Steve Lowe)
                         Brenda, sorry for your loss - (boxley)
                         Bipeds can be like that - - (Ashton) - (7)
                             Thank you, Ashton! -- And here's how things went! - (Nightowl) - (6)
                                 Follow up -- stopped a panic attack in progress! :) - (Nightowl) - (5)
                                     Re: Follow up -- - (Ashton) - (1)
                                         Actually, I couldn't remember how to breathe... - (Nightowl)
                                     Thanks for the update.... - (dmcarls) - (1)
                                         I did fine at the church - (Nightowl)
                                     Bravo! - (CRConrad)
         Sorry to hear it, Brenda. -NT - (admin)
         Sorry for you. -NT - (Silverlock)
         Hang in there and condolences. -NT - (imqwerky)
         My condolences to you and your family, Brenda -NT - (jb4)

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