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Post #266,145
by imric
8/28/06 4:44:22 PM
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New Oh, aye.
They are not causing SS to have a limited lifespan - but they ARE straining the social fabric of this country by actively concentrating all money at 'the top'. The poor do NOT have the discretionary cash to put away enough to live at even poverty levels after they 'retire'/become unemployable. The wealthy DO. Lessee - who are gung-ho about scrapping (not revamping, not making ancillary) sabotaging or raiding SS? Let me give you a hint: it AIN'T the poor. No, the poor aren't hungry enough to COMPLETELY suicide in their old age for 'bread today'. Not yet.

Not YET.
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Post #266,154
by bepatient
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8/28/06 5:07:45 PM
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New Regardless of who is trying to "insert your verb here"
this doesn't change the simple fact that, in current form, SS will not survive.

Scrap it or fix it are the options.

And as I said, the wealthy, who don't need it, can't opt out of the benefits. >that in itself< would be a start.

Changing the funding structure would also be necessary. Investing in something that compounds the growth at more than 2% is necessary...or it will die.

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     It's going to suck when we have to pay the piper - (lincoln) - (43) - Aug. 28, 2006, 01:58:54 PM EDT
         You must be a Republican - (bepatient) - (33) - Aug. 28, 2006, 02:06:06 PM EDT
             And interest on the National Debt is not mandatory? - (lincoln) - (25) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:23:16 PM EDT
                 What he's done in the past 2 years - (bepatient) - (24) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:28:29 PM EDT
                     So raise the cutoff. -NT - (Silverlock) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:32:36 PM EDT
                     Beep says: - (lincoln) - (17) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:33:43 PM EDT
                         Check your numbers - (bepatient) - (16) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:51:32 PM EDT
                             US budget is nearly useless - (JayMehaffey) - (15) - Aug. 28, 2006, 05:15:36 PM EDT
                                 Nice use of statistics. - (bepatient) - (14) - Aug. 28, 2006, 06:56:37 PM EDT
                                     Wot, no sarcasm sign? - (warmachine) - (12) - Aug. 28, 2006, 07:57:21 PM EDT
                                         You seem to not understand - (bepatient) - (11) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:34:26 PM EDT
                                             Who says so? Congress. Who will demonstrate if they renege? - (warmachine) - (10) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:42:35 PM EDT
                                                 It is not that simple - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2006, 12:06:13 AM EDT
                                                     Then explain it! -NT - (warmachine) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2006, 02:38:42 AM EDT
                                                         Its not relevent, so no. -NT - (bepatient) - Aug. 29, 2006, 07:14:35 AM EDT
                                                 Everybody who has paid into SS. - (imric) - (6) - Aug. 29, 2006, 07:21:54 AM EDT
                                                     Thank you for doing what bepatient has refused - (warmachine) - (5) - Aug. 29, 2006, 08:41:40 AM EDT
                                                         What was the point? - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2006, 12:28:34 PM EDT
                                                             A counter argument, at last - (warmachine) - Aug. 29, 2006, 02:03:15 PM EDT
                                                         Heehee. - (imric) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2006, 02:08:09 PM EDT
                                                             Even the middle aged? - (warmachine) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2006, 02:32:27 PM EDT
                                                                 Yup. -NT - (imric) - Aug. 29, 2006, 03:51:11 PM EDT
                                     Sigh - (JayMehaffey) - Aug. 29, 2006, 10:19:23 AM EDT
                     Great. So starvation and plague is mandatory. - (imric) - (4) - Aug. 28, 2006, 04:04:14 PM EDT
                         There's another way. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 28, 2006, 04:16:56 PM EDT
                         It has nothing to do with class - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 28, 2006, 04:27:17 PM EDT
                             Oh, aye. - (imric) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2006, 04:44:22 PM EDT
                                 Regardless of who is trying to "insert your verb here" - (bepatient) - Aug. 28, 2006, 05:07:45 PM EDT
             Not quite. - (imric) - (6) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:49:33 PM EDT
                 Proposals versus message - (bepatient) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:55:29 PM EDT
                 SS is a scam (giant Ponzi scheme) -NT - (tonytib) - (4) - Aug. 28, 2006, 07:10:03 PM EDT
                     That HAS benefited many worthy people. - (imric) - (3) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:24:38 PM EDT
                         While sarcastic - (bepatient) - (2) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:35:57 PM EDT
                             no one has the balls to declare it old folks welfare - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:41:48 PM EDT
                                 'Doesn\ufffdt anything socialistic make you want to throw up? - - (Ashton) - Aug. 29, 2006, 04:03:21 PM EDT
         welcome to 1980 - (boxley) - Aug. 28, 2006, 02:42:00 PM EDT
         Need Medicare or Social Security? Run! Get out while... etc - (warmachine) - Aug. 28, 2006, 03:26:47 PM EDT
         I have an actual *cough* solution - (Ashton) - (4) - Aug. 28, 2006, 09:38:32 PM EDT
             So your suggestion to solve the 2025 spend crisis is - (bepatient) - (3) - Aug. 29, 2006, 12:18:21 AM EDT
                 no, when the elder patient asks a doc for a script - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2006, 07:50:34 AM EDT
                     Well, he won't be doing that up here - (jake123) - Aug. 29, 2006, 09:17:09 AM EDT
                 A little reductio goes well with the - (Ashton) - Aug. 29, 2006, 03:49:54 PM EDT
         economics according to the brothers Grimm - (cforde) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2006, 01:07:43 PM EDT
             Some of those are interesting - (bepatient) - Aug. 29, 2006, 01:29:18 PM EDT

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