Re: My accusation...

Post #263,083 by orion 7/30/06 6:46:21 PM Reply	Re: My accusation... What must be done differently? How can I start some friendships and try to change for the betterment and contribute to this group? Not my goals, but the group's goals. "It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese." Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) [link\|http://district268.xormad.com\|I am from District 268].
Post #263,084 by jake123 7/30/06 6:48:07 PM Reply	By leaving. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #263,086 by orion 7/30/06 6:57:25 PM Reply	Re: By leaving. I tried that and it didn't work. What makes you think it will work this time? "It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese." Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) [link\|http://district268.xormad.com\|I am from District 268].
Post #263,090 by drewk 7/30/06 7:04:04 PM Reply	Do it better, don't give up so easy === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #263,095 by orion 7/30/06 7:19:38 PM Reply	Re: Do it better, don't give up so easy Some people make it really hard for me to continue to stay away. "It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese." Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) [link\|http://district268.xormad.com\|I am from District 268].
Post #263,099 by rcareaga 7/30/06 7:43:15 PM Reply	Leaving worked just fine Honest, Norm. Within days of your departure the number of cutting remarks about orion fell off steeply. As others have noted, you were alluded to at ever-longer intervals following that final post in September of ought-four (a disappearance immediately preceded, if memory serves, by a last couple of instances of sock puppetry under a new nom de wank), and have figured in our discussions very seldom and then only fleetingly for scores of weeks past. I can't speak for the rest of the group, but by this long, hot summer my own memories of your participation here had faded and mellowed to a vague sense of gratitude that wherever you were, at liberty or confined, sleeping on a sofa or in a nice comfortable bed of loam, you were at least not here, and for that effortless absence of yours you have never stood higher in my esteem. You racked up an excellent record for 22 months and then threw it all away today. Still, it was a sound proof-of-concept: you can earn some goodwill. Leave now and stay away until March of 2010 and everyone will like you twice as much as we did until today. curdle-ially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #263,103 by orion 7/30/06 7:55:39 PM Reply	No it didn't I know I can contribute here without going back to multiple sock puppet accounts. It went so so for 22 months, but I was still mentioned and things brought me back here. Witness that I used the orion account and I did not create a new one and pretend to be someone else. Witness that I did contribute to a few threads on things not about myself. It is some progress, but it is not enough. I can do better in my contributions, I know it. "It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese." Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) [link\|http://district268.xormad.com\|I am from District 268].
Post #263,107 by broomberg 7/30/06 8:20:50 PM Reply	Stop it Accept that you annoy the fuck out of some people. They don't like you. They will never like you. They will never accept you. They don't have to. Accept that if you talk about yourself, "doing better", "joining in", etc, you are giving them the opportunity to vent. Do not respond. Do not try to validate yourself. If you find yourself posting, somewhere, on topic, and you have something to add, do it. No problem. As long as you don't refer to yourself, then any response that refers to your whacko history is not on topic, and you can maintain the moral highground by NOT RESPONDING. Don't post personal stories about yourself. It'll just be an opening for people to rip you to shreds. Keep it up for a month or so. Stay on topic, do not refer to yourself, contribute a bit. As I said in the past, you a smart guy. Fucking insane, but a smart guy. If you can actually keep it up, maybe you'll earn enough trust to be accepted as someone to bullshit with, someone who's point of view might actually make sense, someone who can be invited in to share a bit of perosnal time with. BUT DON'T BOTHER TRYING TO DO IT UNTIL YOU'VE PROVEN YOURSELF.
Post #263,112 by orion 7/30/06 8:39:09 PM Reply	Re: Stop it Good advice. I am not trying to force people to accept me, at one time before I actually did contribute to this group. I accept that not all accept me, but yet there are those who are kind. I am not perfect, but if I avoid those topics and take your advice, I think I can do better. Thanks. "It is of interest to note that while some dolphins are reported to have learned English -- up to fifty words used in correct context -- no human being has been reported to have learned dolphinese." Carl Sagan (1934 - 1996) [link\|http://district268.xormad.com\|I am from District 268].
Post #263,087 by admin 7/30/06 7:00:04 PM Reply	The "group" doesn't have "goals" The group just has a low tolerance for antisocial behavior. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #263,215 by JayMehaffey 7/31/06 3:16:11 PM Reply	Actually I would say it's pretty high The group just has a low tolerance for antisocial behavior. Actually I would say it's pretty high. However, once you hit that tolerance, there isn't much forgive around here. Jay
Post #263,219 by Another Scott 7/31/06 3:27:23 PM Reply	Once? Hmmm.
Post #263,222 by Nightowl 7/31/06 3:40:28 PM 7/31/06 3:41:34 PM Reply	Just for the record, Jay People often forgive, but that doesn't mean they want rounds 2 and 3 and etc. In other words, I've forgiven many people in my life, but that doesn't mean I have to continue to let them be in my life, or be part of my life. There's a point where I choose to protect myself from those continued influences. Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." -- By Geoffrey F. Abert ************************** "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind, don't matter - and those who matter, don't mind." -- By Dr. Seuss ******************************* "Sometimes it takes a whole lot more strength to walk away than to stand there and fight." -- By the character of John Abbott: said on Young & Restless on 5/19/06 ******************************* Edited by Nightowl July 31, 2006, 03:41:34 PM EDT Expand All History

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