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New Here he comes with the wet blanket...
I'll believe it when I see it.

It strikes me that the Tesla car is counting on achieving its goals by 1) improvements in the batteries compared to [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Motors_EV1|EV-1], and 2) the light weight of the Lotus platform. There's something to that, but I think their claims are a bit too high to be taken seriously at this point.

How much is the cheapest Lotus these days? The Elise MSRP is $43k. The Exige MSRP is $51k. They're going to have a smaller run of more complicated cars, take out the motor but add a bunch of expensive and heavy batteries, make it safe in collisions, quick to recharge, reliable, and sell it for $80k? And make money? And Toyota or Honda can't do this?

I don't think so.

Color me a skeptic. The car business has attracted too many people who claim to have the magic future vehicle who only turn out prototypes. Remember the [link|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_W2|Vector W2]?

[link|http://hardware.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/07/20/0021209|Slashdot] has an article on it too.

I think batteries are going to have to get a lot cheaper or a lot better for a fast, 250 mile range electric car to cost less than $100k.

I'd love to be proven wrong though. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
New I think the root is much simpler -
A general failure to recognize (except by those who didn't flunk Science 101) that, merely moving around your topical means of energy-STORAGE: fails to address the PROBLEM.

(Do the red-half of Muricans '06 still believe that there's a magic pill for your gas tank which multiplies mileage by 3X.. but the car companies are suppressing it?)

I submit that, the mere act of reading beyond an intro which begins like the above - indicates severely damaged neural processes. And explains Shrub.. as well as the nuking of gay flag-burning whales by Constitutional Amendment.

New TTAC on the latest Tesla news.
[link|http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/?p=4754|The Truth About Cars]:

By Robert Farago
August 14, 2007

This website has been skeptical of Tesla Motors\ufffd claims for their lithium-ion-powered Roadster since day one. While some readers think we\ufffdve \ufffdhad it in\ufffd for the California-based car company, rest assured TTAC is an equal opportunity muckraker. Anyway, yesterday, when Martin Eberhard revealed that he\ufffdd relinquished Tesla's top job, we held fire to avoid accusations of smug satisfaction. But Eberhard\ufffds email to Tesla customers piqued our interest. As Tesla has yet to deliver a single customer car, by thy words thy shall be known.

[...]


Cheers,
Scott.
     a nice car I cant afford (yet) - (boxley) - (18)
         Kewl! -NT - (imqwerky)
         I like the range on it -NT - (Simon_Jester)
         Synchronicity - - (Ashton) - (1)
             David Brin is most certainly a geek. - (inthane-chan)
         Re: a nice car I cant afford (yet) - (xtensive) - (1)
             $80k - (SpiceWare)
         looks good to me - (cforde)
         Here he comes with the wet blanket... - (Another Scott) - (2)
             I think the root is much simpler - - (Ashton)
             TTAC on the latest Tesla news. - (Another Scott)
         plug-in hybrid Mini looks interesting - (SpiceWare) - (7)
             I want one ... NOW! -NT - (drewk) - (4)
                 Are you prepared to pay the Base Price plus the conversion? -NT - (folkert) - (2)
                     I said I *wanted* one ... completely different -NT - (drewk) - (1)
                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (jbrabeck)
                 Ditto likewise. - (static)
             On the other end of the economy scale... - (Meerkat) - (1)
                 bad choice, the steering wheel is on the passengers side :-) -NT - (boxley)

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