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Post #255,841
by broomberg
5/18/06 7:33:33 AM
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New Don't bother
RH: We support what is on our supported list.
WxPython: We TOLD you, you just need to replace lib x with lib y and it should work fine.
RH: If you replace lib x with lib y, then all the software we tested and support will no longer be supported. While it may work, don't bother calling us if it doesn't.

I've run into this situation several times. It is FAR easier (in my case) to get dispensation to run a Debian box for my projects than force our RH boxes to run them. The general rule is if it needs any vendor support it goes on the RH. If it doesn't, we try to place it on RH but we can then fall back.
Post #255,851
by static
5/18/06 9:28:29 AM
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New My point still stands.
Even if they have no interest in fixing any level of that specific problem, sooner or later someone will ask "how many bugs did we close that we don't want to or can't fix?". That, IMO, is why you should file a bug with RH.

Wade.
"Insert crowbar. Apply force."
Post #255,860
by Yendor
5/18/06 9:50:46 AM
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New Bollocks.
The main reason I switched from RH to Debian (back in '02) was the following...I had a circular dependency situation going on between three different libs. No, I don't remember what they were. Basically, I couldn't install the latest version of some package because that would remove the older package, upon which other software relied upon that version and that version only.

Over the course of 6 months, I filed at least 3 bug reports with RH and up2date and wherever else I could find to submit bugs with these RPM packages.

None of them was ever even acknowledged -- much less "closed because [they] don't wanna look at it."

Once fed up enough, I switched from RH to Debian and haven't looked back.

Nothing I have heard in the intervening time makes me believe that RH has fixed ant of these problems inherent to the RPM review/dependency process. (NOTE: I'm not saying that it's the RPM format itself. It just all goes back to Debian's policy, and RPM-based-architectures' lack thereof.)
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
     Trying to install pywxwindows on RHEL3 - (tuberculosis) - (22) - May 16, 2006, 04:59:03 PM EDT
         I'm not sure what you're trying to do. - (Another Scott) - (20) - May 16, 2006, 06:35:36 PM EDT
             Trying to get wxpython working - (tuberculosis) - (19) - May 16, 2006, 07:24:05 PM EDT
                 Seems like a RH issue, not a Linux issue - (broomberg) - (10) - May 16, 2006, 08:44:52 PM EDT
                     No other system is an option - (tuberculosis) - (8) - May 16, 2006, 11:09:07 PM EDT
                         Check the comments here. - (Another Scott) - May 16, 2006, 11:22:11 PM EDT
                         Have you checked that the 'wrong' RPMs are removed? - (static) - (6) - May 16, 2006, 11:54:55 PM EDT
                             Never mind - (tuberculosis) - (5) - May 17, 2006, 01:00:45 PM EDT
                                 File a bug. - (static) - (4) - May 18, 2006, 12:16:05 AM EDT
                                     With/against who? - (tuberculosis) - (3) - May 18, 2006, 02:57:57 AM EDT
                                         Don't bother - (broomberg) - (2) - May 18, 2006, 07:33:33 AM EDT
                                             My point still stands. - (static) - (1) - May 18, 2006, 09:28:29 AM EDT
                                                 Bollocks. - (Yendor) - May 18, 2006, 09:50:46 AM EDT
                     Ubuntu is also Python-friendly - (dws) - May 17, 2006, 03:21:25 AM EDT
                 It's mostly an RH issue. - (static) - (1) - May 16, 2006, 10:25:10 PM EDT
                     Sigh, looks like python isn't in the solution set then - (tuberculosis) - May 16, 2006, 11:12:29 PM EDT
                 It's already been said, but RH != linux - (admin) - (4) - May 16, 2006, 10:46:27 PM EDT
                     Just makes the whole thing a balkanized nightmare - (tuberculosis) - (3) - May 16, 2006, 11:11:04 PM EDT
                         *shrug* - (admin) - (2) - May 16, 2006, 11:44:18 PM EDT
                             The opposite is true here wrt ratios -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1) - May 17, 2006, 12:37:20 PM EDT
                                 Even so... - (admin) - May 17, 2006, 01:58:31 PM EDT
                 RedHat/CentOS/SuSE != Linux as a whole. - (folkert) - May 18, 2006, 04:27:25 PM EDT
         Haha. You said tips... - (folkert) - May 18, 2006, 04:17:57 PM EDT

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