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New You can't control the space behind you.
You can, however, control the space in front of you.

And holding a car stationary with the clutch for extended periods of time is just cruel.

Ya meanie.


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New No, but I can make my needs known.
9 times out of 10 the ass behind me gets the clue.

And who said anything about holding it stationary with the clutch? That's what the brake is for. Hand brakes are for parking, not driving.
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New Footbrake in queue = antisocial
The current trend for eyeball-searing brake lights means that if you hold your car on the footbrake, you're tattooing the retinas of the driver behind.

I find your faith in the ability of other drivers to get any sort of clue very touching.


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New You have the oddest ideas sometimes...
I've got a retinal disorder that causes me intense, long-lasting afterimages from fairly dim lights (monitors, windows on cloudy days, etc). Brake lights don't bother me in the least, so I have no idea what you're going on about. I'd much rather know the car in front of me is stopped than have to guess that it might have its handbrake engaged.

Empirical evidence of the reactions of drivers behind me shows that they can get a clue. Or at the very least they get nervous that the car in front of them is slipping back, and they stop creeping forward clue or no.
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New I don't rely on lights to work out whether a car is stopped.
I look at whether it's actually moving or not. There's enough cars on the road with their brakes and indicators wired up the wrong way round (or not at all, which is always good for a laugh) for me to distrust such ephemeral indications of movement or not.

And FWIW, the advanced motoring groups in the UK advocate handbrake/neutral whilst waiting in traffic, without exception, on the basis of safety (if you get rear-ended, you want the handbrake on to hold the car where it is - the footbrake may kick up, you won't have your foot full on it (because no-one ever does except in an emergency and not even then, hence EBA in Mercedes and other cars) and doesn't hold the rear wheels as hard, and the drive-train disconnected to save damage to the engine) and courtesy (people with normal eyesight get dazzled by high level brake lights).

So no, it's not an odd idea at all.


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New Also, footbrake casuing lights to go on ==
Yo-Yo effect and eventualy stopping of traffic due to over reactions of Brake lights.

Casual drivers (ones not really realizing that there *ARE* other drivers on the road, especially Site-seers with cell phone in hand) are what cause me great anguish.
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New you dont have those brake lites on sunshine
the fuckwit behind you may assume that you are moving and plow into your ass. He doesnt know you have a stick.I suppose when driving a auto you put it into park at every light.

thanx,
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New You make no sense


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     Ben started driving today - (broomberg) - (48)
         Gee, I didn't know my driving affected you that much :-P - (ben_tilly)
         My dad had trouble teaching my sister - (SpiceWare) - (7)
             My daughters think they can learn my thinking about it. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                 Ben spent 3 hours driving yesterday - (broomberg)
             1st? - (broomberg) - (4)
                 not so silly - (SpiceWare)
                 Either way works - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     That is a very smart idea - (imqwerky) - (1)
                         Where I got it from... - (ben_tilly)
         BTDT with Child #1, Child #2 starts driver's ed in June - (imqwerky) - (1)
             Not a good idea, querk! - (jb4)
         If you don't participate, you'll miss some stories to tell. - (a6l6e6x) - (35)
             I'll be learning to drive a manual / stick / standard soon. - (Meerkat) - (34)
                 Couple thing to remember - (broomberg) - (32)
                     You forgot the #1 rule: If you can't find it, grind it! :-D -NT - (imqwerky) - (4)
                         You can't really say you drive stick . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (3)
                             Oh, I dunno about that - (drewk)
                             Did that years ago. - (folkert) - (1)
                                 You must have had synchro on 1st. - (Andrew Grygus)
                     Re: Couple thing to remember - (pwhysall) - (26)
                         It'll all be flat (and quiet!) roads to start with. - (Meerkat) - (3)
                             What's wrong with your BlueBird? -NT - (static) - (2)
                                 Still works, but it's old. Bit bored after 5 years of it. -NT - (Meerkat) - (1)
                                     Ah. - (static)
                         handbrake my arse - (boxley) - (17)
                             Ar. - (admin) - (11)
                                 5 feet slippage? - (pwhysall) - (10)
                                     Never used one. - (admin) - (8)
                                         You can't control the space behind you. - (pwhysall) - (7)
                                             No, but I can make my needs known. - (admin) - (6)
                                                 Footbrake in queue = antisocial - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                     You have the oddest ideas sometimes... - (admin) - (1)
                                                         I don't rely on lights to work out whether a car is stopped. - (pwhysall)
                                                     Also, footbrake casuing lights to go on == - (folkert)
                                                     you dont have those brake lites on sunshine - (boxley) - (1)
                                                         You make no sense -NT - (pwhysall)
                                     Wot's a handbrake? - (jbrabeck)
                             Complete crap. - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                 makes up for the highbeams theyre shining into my dash -NT - (boxley)
                                 Must admit I've never noticed this problem. - (Meerkat) - (2)
                                     Do you ever get fog in Sydney? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                         A few nights a year, if you're (un)lucky. -NT - (Meerkat)
                         Just don't think TOO smooth. - (admin) - (3)
                             Ar - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                 Eh? - (Another Scott)
                                 Air brakes are fun too, for the unprepared :-) - (ben_tilly)
                 advice deja vue - (boxley)
         Can totally relate... - (slugbug)

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