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New I must disagree.
I'm not saying it's right...it's not. The woman who has an abortion and is out there demanding that no one has an abortion is not rational. (Neither is the individual who argues that choice all that matters.)

Her key argument is this : I dont think any woman does until she reaches that moment. And at that moment, it stops being a political agenda and becomes an unthinkable personal reality.

Everyone - both sides - have forgotten the personal reality and are arguing ideology.
New naw, its a bunch of men deciding what women do :-)
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New So we'll replace it with women deciding what men do :-P
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New Most of already have, we're married....
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New Isn't that called "life"?
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Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
New Agree, and disagree
I dont think any woman does until she reaches that moment. And at that moment, it stops being a political agenda and becomes an unthinkable personal reality.

Yes, it absolutely does. A reality that changes you. At least, one that should change you. Apparently, for these (agreed) irrational folks, there is no change, there is no reality. There is only the hypocracy of getting for me, and then continuing to deny for all others. I cannot countenance that. Nor can I countenance attempts to rationalize such irrationality by excusing it as "self-preservation" or other such tommyrot. If such a momentous event is not going to change you, then containue to stand there and attempt to intimidate those who would seek a (now, at least) legal and relatively save surgical option.

I know a lot more about this issue than I'm willing to talk about here, but I will say this: Anybody who acts thus (solicits an abortion for herself, then would stand and attempt to deny one for any other seeking one), is the most reprehensible waste of protoplasm on the planet, and is not worthy of pity, or rationalization, or even scorn. They are human garbage, and are beneath even the lowest measure of respect.
jb4
"Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'."
&mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
     interesting points from the pro-choice/anti-abortion front - (lincoln) - (30)
         Wow -NT - (tuberculosis) - (20)
             What, that surprised you? - (inthane-chan) - (19)
                 Yeah, but there's plain old hypocracy - (tuberculosis) - (18)
                     I must be more jaded than you. I wasn't surprised at all. -NT - (inthane-chan)
                     Different factors may have been involved. - (hnick)
                     No it's not. - (bionerd) - (15)
                         That may be - (jake123)
                         Oh, horse exhaust! - (jb4) - (7)
                             I must disagree. - (Simon_Jester) - (5)
                                 naw, its a bunch of men deciding what women do :-) -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                     So we'll replace it with women deciding what men do :-P -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                                         Most of already have, we're married.... -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                         Isn't that called "life"? -NT - (Silverlock)
                                 Agree, and disagree - (jb4)
                             I didnt say I condone the behavior - (bionerd)
                         Then it's rule by the insane - (warmachine) - (2)
                             s/fanatical murderers/the pResident -NT - (jb4)
                             how much time is your nutjob mullah going to do? :-) - (boxley)
                         Yes it is. - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             Sure, it's not healthy - (bionerd) - (1)
                                 Sometimes it is better to be fascinated from a distance - (ben_tilly)
         "Do as I say, not as I do!" - (jb4)
         Suggests a new tactic - (warmachine) - (7)
             and let some scared waif have even less choice? - (boxley) - (6)
                 I'm for it - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                     Me too - (tuberculosis)
                     here's why not - (boxley) - (2)
                         Yeah, not caring here - (drewk)
                         I didn't suggest publicizing all names... - (ben_tilly)
                 Don't think vocal protesters are scared waifs -NT - (warmachine)

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