Post #249,648
3/28/06 1:54:13 PM
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Oh, horse exhaust!
It becomes an act of self preservation to deny the undeniable and rationalize the irrational. It's no surprise at all to find her picketing the clinic the next day, probably carrying the biggest sign and chanting the loudest. That's complete and utter bullshit, Laura, and you know it, too! Your "self-preservation" stops at the point of curtailing my rights. Go preserve yourself in a quiet, introspective and self-respecting manner. No amount of "self-preservation" justifies the abject, undeniable, and facistic hypocricy of demanding something for yourself that you would in the next breath deny to everybody else. Sorry, that's just not good enough. (That said in the most emphatic terms I can muster, I do, however, agree with the rest of your post. The conclusion, however, needs rehearsal...).
jb4 "Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'." &mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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Post #249,666
3/28/06 4:06:34 PM
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I must disagree.
I'm not saying it's right...it's not. The woman who has an abortion and is out there demanding that no one has an abortion is not rational. (Neither is the individual who argues that choice all that matters.)
Her key argument is this : I dont think any woman does until she reaches that moment. And at that moment, it stops being a political agenda and becomes an unthinkable personal reality.
Everyone - both sides - have forgotten the personal reality and are arguing ideology.
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Post #249,668
3/28/06 4:09:22 PM
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naw, its a bunch of men deciding what women do :-)
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Post #249,674
3/28/06 4:30:57 PM
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So we'll replace it with women deciding what men do :-P
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Post #249,679
3/28/06 4:49:11 PM
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Most of already have, we're married....
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #249,680
3/28/06 4:49:21 PM
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Isn't that called "life"?
----------------------------------------- Impeach Bush. Impeach Cheney. Do it now.
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Post #249,703
3/28/06 6:54:20 PM
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Agree, and disagree
I dont think any woman does until she reaches that moment. And at that moment, it stops being a political agenda and becomes an unthinkable personal reality. Yes, it absolutely does. A reality that changes you. At least, one that should change you. Apparently, for these (agreed) irrational folks, there is no change, there is no reality. There is only the hypocracy of getting for me, and then continuing to deny for all others. I cannot countenance that. Nor can I countenance attempts to rationalize such irrationality by excusing it as "self-preservation" or other such tommyrot. If such a momentous event is not going to change you, then containue to stand there and attempt to intimidate those who would seek a (now, at least) legal and relatively save surgical option. I know a lot more about this issue than I'm willing to talk about here, but I will say this: Anybody who acts thus (solicits an abortion for herself, then would stand and attempt to deny one for any other seeking one), is the most reprehensible waste of protoplasm on the planet, and is not worthy of pity, or rationalization, or even scorn. They are human garbage, and are beneath even the lowest measure of respect.
jb4 "Every Repbulican who wants to defend Bush on [the expansion of Presidential powers], should be forced to say, 'I wouldn't hesitate to see President Hillary Rodham Clinton have the same authority'." &mdash an unidentified letter writer to Newsweek on the expansion of executive powers under the Bush administration
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Post #249,726
3/28/06 8:47:56 PM
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I didnt say I condone the behavior
But I understand it. Picture a pro-life fanatic who finds herself pregnant, and for whatever reason feels, she has no choice but to get an abortion. That woman has to be in a pretty desperate situation to make that choice. Imagine the guilt, disgust, contempt and self-loathing she must feel. She has to protect herself from her own assault, so her defenses kick in to allow her to cope with her reality and keep her sense of self intact. She denies, distorts, rationalizes and overcompensates to the point where her perception of reality is distorted. She will resume her protesting with a vengence to justify her own sins.
This doesnt mean I support her politics or her actions. But I do support her right to choose.
Follow your MOUSE
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