Industrial Age Confusion

Post #245,691 by Nightowl 2/21/06 9:55:57 PM Reply	Industrial Age Confusion The Industrial Revolution (not sure on this, was it the era of Titanic?) The reason I thought this at first, was because of this song: FROM TITANIC THE MUSICAL: What a Remarkable Age This Is! My dear Mr. Latimer! Prepare to meet our clientele Our meeting is imminent Our having just run the dinner bell It won't be a novelty We mostly have seen them all before... Prepare for the usual You should be aware of what's in store... We've served them on the Baltic And the Oceanic Olympic and Majestic And today's the same There's nothing changed... Mr. Astor takes his toast dry Mrs. Straus likes the grouse With the sauce on the side And the Wideners love kidney pie Bring it hot, if it's not They'll be fit to be tied They're accustomed to the best Of all that money buys The world of free enterprise Has given this privilege to the rich... When they're idle They're entitled to the luxury Which we provide That's forever the source of our pride... Which is why we're always there With our special form of care For every hungry millionaire By now they've all arrived... We're sailing aboard the greatest ship That ever sailed the seas The hull and the keel imperviously Stronger by degrees! Magnificent crystal chandeliers Parquet in all the floors The ceiling is Jacobean A decor the world adores Oh what a ship! Remarkable keel Oh what a keel! Remarkable steel! Oh what a ship! If it could be put in a phrase...it's What a remarkable age this is! A fellow's invented see-through film He calls it cellophane Another has built a parachute For jumping out of an airplane! Remarkable things flow endlessly From out the human brain! Indeed And what a remarkable age this is! Keep the Captain's table pristine Where we seat the elite whom we happily serve Here they dine on fine French cuisine It's the Cr\ufffdme De La Cr\ufffdme\ufffds Exclusive preserve! It's the pleasure of the leisure class's greatest wits To be where the Captain sits When taking their dinner on the sea. Giving difference to their preferences Is our chief art! We play a part In a perfectly working machine You should ever be aware This is a privilege great and rare A special burden that we bear In our respective lives! Remarkable! U.S. Steel Is splitting share at five to four! Monopoly makes the industry Far better than before! Attending the coronation of King George the Fifth was grand. And afterwards off to Monaco To frolic in the sand. Remarkable talk Oh what a talk! Remarkable times Oh what a time! Remarkable world Oh what a world! So much to surprise and amaze... And... What a remarkable time What a remarkable world What a remarkable age... The hull and the keel impervious Magnificent crystal chandeliers A fellow's invented see-through film And what a remarkable age This is! So my question is, if it wasn't the Industrial Age, what age was it, or were they just calling it an age when it wasn't really? I just thought perhaps the building of Titanic took place overseas while other things were happening here. But it was the song that confused me, really. Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." By Geoffrey F. Abert
Post #245,695 by rcareaga 2/21/06 10:52:57 PM Reply	not every "age" a "revolution" —and as a rule one probably ought not draw broad conclusions about history (or science, or finance, or philately) from the lyrics of Broadway musicals. cordially, Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
Post #245,696 by Another Scott 2/21/06 11:02:02 PM Reply	Of course, some took "Birth of a Nation" as history too. Woodrow Wilson, [link\|http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation\|for instance]. Cheers, Scott.
Post #245,703 by ben_tilly 2/22/06 2:02:27 AM Reply	That is like... reading about the Wild West and concluding that the American Revolution happened in the 1870s or so. After all there are all of these references to America about then. What you're missing is that a revolution marks a boundary. America was around in the 1870s but the boundary of its existence was a century earlier. (It is traditional to say that America began with the signing of the Declaration of Independence in July 4, 1776. That's wrong, but let's not get sidetracked.) The same applies here. Yes, lots of industrial stuff happened at the same time as the Titanic. That is because the Titanic happened during the Industrial Age. But we're still in the Industrial Age. (ie the era where our economy centers around industry and manufacturing.) The Industrial Revolution happened at the boundary of that Age. Of course that transition happened in different places at different times. But it is traditionally held to have happened in England around 1760-1830, and elsewhere in Europe and America 30-100 years later. (It is still happening in some parts of the world.) So you're off by about a century, give or take some decades. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #245,751 by Nightowl 2/22/06 1:20:52 PM Reply	Re: That is like... ... What you're missing is that a revolution marks a boundary. America was around in the 1870s but the boundary of its existence was a century earlier. ... Wow, I didn't realize that, really. I thought a revolution always marked a bloody uprising, or social uprising more or less. And I thought that the issue about Titanic, all the hoopla that followed, might have been such a social uprising. That explains a lot though, thanks! The same applies here. Yes, lots of industrial stuff happened at the same time as the Titanic. That is because the Titanic happened during the Industrial Age. But we're still in the Industrial Age. (ie the era where our economy centers around industry and manufacturing.) The Industrial Revolution happened at the boundary of that Age. Of course that transition happened in different places at different times. But it is traditionally held to have happened in England around 1760-1830, and elsewhere in Europe and America 30-100 years later. (It is still happening in some parts of the world.) And that explains a lot too. I didn't realize it meant a boundary, which is why I thought the Titanic was in the Industrial Age, and as you've said, it was, it just wasn't the boundary. So you're off by about a century, give or take some decades. Not bad, thanks for the explanation :) Brenda "When you take charge of your life, there is no longer need to ask permission of other people or society at large. When you ask permission, you give someone veto power over your life." By Geoffrey F. Abert

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