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Post #239,097

12/22/05 11:56:19 PM

Those are her words, but what are her actions?

Post #239,112

by Andrew Grygus

Picture of Andrew Grygus

12/23/05 3:10:14 AM

That will be revealed in the fullness of time . . .

. . but when a woman's out to reform a man you can bet it doesn't include conceding many battles.

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Post #239,147

12/23/05 8:38:50 AM

oh ye of little faith...

If ya'll think acting like jerks is the way to go, I'll keep my mouth shut on the topic. There are lots of other ways to reform Andrew, anyway.

Follow your MOUSE

Post #239,154

Picture of pwhysall

12/23/05 8:44:55 AM

"Jerks get all the girls"

The battle-cry of the single man, I wot.

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Post #239,207

12/23/05 12:20:11 PM

Geez, bio

I don't see Andrew doing that anyway. _I_ think he'd prefer to find a girl he doesn't have to be a jerk to.

I think MOST single 'nice guys' have to get over the nice-guy/jerk thing. I don't think either one is related to attracting a woman (except obliquely, as I said before). It's taken a lot of 'counselling' from my female friends for me to reach that conclusion.

I do have more than a few female friends, and I've had to console them SO many times about the jerks they were dating... (three of them have found really nice guys woth their time now, btw - all meeting their guys in really unusual circumstance, only one of them not actively looking) It's hard not to see jerks as having an advantage - I used to be very bitter about the subject myself. So much so I pretty much gave up on that part of my life for a long time. They are very frank with me now; they are actively trying to help me rather commiserating. I really am hoping to figure out what's what - so far it seems a 'mating display' of wealth and/or health (and/or) fitness is primary.

Next I've come to the conclusion that it's the ability to engage the lady personally. That can be intellectually, socially, or physically (dancing, etc.) - and the engagement is what counts, not necessarily whether the engagement is good or bad (I've had tales or arguments, spills, and lousy dancers - though the good anecdotes outnumber the bad). The more of these things, the better. Looks outside of health/fitness don't seem to matter that much... (I'm personally working on health/fitness, myself. That's something that benefits me anyway).

Being a nice guy doesn't seem to enter the situation. It gets you friends (sometimes very good friends), though, if the 'mating display' is rejected. That isn't a bad thing - but it can feed bitterness.

Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #239,208

12/23/05 12:28:10 PM

Ziiiiip

That's the sound of me keeping my mouth shut.

Follow your MOUSE

Post #239,210

12/23/05 12:31:30 PM

*shrug*

Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

New car work good. - (Andrew Grygus) - (131) - Dec. 10, 2005, 09:48:35 PM EST

:-) Excellent. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 10, 2005, 10:09:19 PM EST

Smithers -NT - (broomberg) - Dec. 10, 2005, 11:02:15 PM EST

Schwing. -NT - (admin) - Dec. 10, 2005, 11:06:29 PM EST

job: check, car: check, cooks: check, .... -NT - (cforde) - (3) - Dec. 11, 2005, 03:43:00 AM EST

The next stage is when she checks out how big his - (jake123) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2005, 08:09:41 AM EST

I wonder if she's a Druish Princess named Vespa? -NT - (n3jja) - Dec. 11, 2005, 01:02:39 PM EST

Yeah, it's like going for a job . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 11, 2005, 01:12:24 PM EST

good doins, -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 11, 2005, 10:18:02 AM EST

Good luck -NT - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 11, 2005, 12:54:51 PM EST

It is well that I am married\ufffd - (rcareaga) - (1) - Dec. 11, 2005, 03:17:08 PM EST

Ahhh, one of the !GOOD years. - (folkert) - Dec. 12, 2005, 10:57:42 AM EST

Also, don't forget that women find a man with an... - (a6l6e6x) - Dec. 11, 2005, 05:43:25 PM EST

Weeee! - (imqwerky) - (118) - Dec. 11, 2005, 09:22:40 PM EST

Well, it just ain't to be. - (Andrew Grygus) - (117) - Dec. 12, 2005, 05:30:51 AM EST

Wining them is easy.Just keep pouring until they say stop... - (CRConrad) - (1) - Dec. 12, 2005, 02:48:34 AM EST

OK, so it looked wrong both ways and I was tired. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 12, 2005, 05:29:04 AM EST

But, on the other hand . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (108) - Dec. 13, 2005, 12:32:11 AM EST

keep a spatula on your dashboard - (boxley) - (2) - Dec. 13, 2005, 08:33:28 AM EST

God, how I love a good pervert ;-) -NT - (imqwerky) - (1) - Dec. 13, 2005, 06:38:11 PM EST

Re: God, how I love a good pervert ;-) (new thread) - (lincoln) - Dec. 14, 2005, 11:00:15 PM EST

Book recommendation - (tuberculosis) - (3) - Dec. 13, 2005, 01:22:50 PM EST

Hmmmmmm . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 13, 2005, 03:02:33 PM EST

From a review: - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 18, 2005, 12:17:47 PM EST

Well, my copy hasn't arrived yet . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 18, 2005, 02:59:45 PM EST

I found it seems to be whether they think you're after them. - (static) - (100) - Dec. 15, 2005, 06:13:50 PM EST

Yeah, that's part of the 'treat 'em like dirt' thing. - (Andrew Grygus) - (99) - Dec. 15, 2005, 08:46:10 PM EST

its not your idealizm you want squeezed :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Dec. 15, 2005, 10:20:19 PM EST

Yeah, but according to current literature . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 15, 2005, 10:39:35 PM EST

FWIW, all women aren't like that. - (Another Scott) - (11) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:22:19 PM EST

Yeah, I'm work'n on that . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (10) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:32:02 PM EST

Start with insulting them - (broomberg) - (9) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:34:33 PM EST

That appears to be the essential point. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:47:44 PM EST

I dunno... - (Another Scott) - (7) - Dec. 15, 2005, 11:51:54 PM EST

Hey! You're being reasonable when . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (6) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:21:42 AM EST

Kinda like taking any job when unemployed - (broomberg) - Dec. 16, 2005, 06:44:42 AM EST

are you narrowing choices by color weight accents? - (boxley) - (4) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:04:32 AM EST

Well, here's my preferences . . you tell me. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:38:34 AM EST

well you really are not representative of "white" culture - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:42:45 AM EST

Chinese probably not good match - (tonytib) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:57:00 PM EST

no they prefer their men pw'ed - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2005, 06:25:59 PM EST

exact opposite - (Steve Lowe) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 03:35:35 AM EST

:-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 16, 2005, 07:45:05 AM EST

Crap, crap, and more crap - (bionerd) - (81) - Dec. 16, 2005, 10:56:19 AM EST

We'll be anxiously awaiting :-) -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 11:43:16 AM EST

Lemme get my flack jacket . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (79) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:07:00 PM EST

I was recently talking - (imric) - (8) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:41:23 PM EST

When you make those millions - (bepatient) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:53:00 PM EST

we need a design for the t-shirt - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:58:06 PM EST

Oh - I will. - (imric) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 12:59:31 PM EST

Don't bother ... I don't need it any more -NT - (drewk) - Dec. 16, 2005, 01:50:45 PM EST

Exactly the situation. - (Andrew Grygus) - (3) - Dec. 16, 2005, 02:00:49 PM EST

I think it is a matter of numbers and no fear of rejection - (broomberg) - (2) - Dec. 16, 2005, 04:32:00 PM EST

Bill Hicks said/sang it best - (Silverlock) - (1) - Dec. 16, 2005, 09:02:55 PM EST

paragraph 2 smackgobs me - (boxley) - Dec. 16, 2005, 09:13:49 PM EST

Andrew, my darling... - (bionerd) - (69) - Dec. 20, 2005, 09:38:18 AM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:57:06 AM EST

Aww come-on . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (12) - Dec. 20, 2005, 11:10:25 AM EST

Did they find the man they wanted... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 11:15:13 AM EST

I deal with the women too . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:37:38 PM EST

All of it. Ignore all of it. - (bionerd) - (9) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:37:58 PM EST

*grin* - (imric) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:00:00 PM EST

Re: All of it. Ignore all of it. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:34:30 PM EST

Oh bull - (broomberg) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:39:36 PM EST

Oh, I don't want to actually . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 21, 2005, 12:36:52 AM EST

My ex-fiance says - (imric) - (4) - Dec. 21, 2005, 07:10:00 AM EST

And there, of course, lies a problem. - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 21, 2005, 01:48:57 PM EST

fiance, eh? - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 21, 2005, 01:58:30 PM EST

Yeah, yeah - so I dropped the extra e. - (imric) - (1) - Dec. 21, 2005, 02:18:13 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (jb4) - Dec. 21, 2005, 05:02:59 PM EST

Being a jerk certainly doesn't seem to be a turn-off - (imric) - (44) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:07:49 PM EST

It is also necessary . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (41) - Dec. 20, 2005, 12:39:11 PM EST

Bull. -NT - (bionerd) - (40) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:45:11 PM EST

Well, I'm glad to see you're feeling better. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (39) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:35:26 PM EST

I wish. - (bionerd) - (38) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:20:15 PM EST

Hang in there, L. Drink ginger ale if you can - often helps. -NT - (Another Scott) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:24:30 PM EST

Have been. - (bionerd) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:28:24 PM EST

But, but, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (15) - Dec. 22, 2005, 07:19:41 PM EST

You may have won the battle - (bionerd) - (14) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:19:29 PM EST

No no no. It's Ashton who does the dance. cha cha cha. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (6) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:00:04 PM EST

Ya, but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:00:58 AM EST

No need for the suit - (bionerd) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:36:55 AM EST

Well, I got out the drum and did a few . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:57:35 PM EST

I am so *pretty* - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:31:02 PM EST

Done - but . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 01:03:38 PM EST

yabut - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:13:50 AM EST

Those are her words, but what are her actions? -NT - (tonytib) - (6) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:56:19 PM EST

That will be revealed in the fullness of time . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:10:14 AM EST

oh ye of little faith... - (bionerd) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:38:50 AM EST

"Jerks get all the girls" - (pwhysall) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:44:55 AM EST

Geez, bio - (imric) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:20:11 PM EST

Ziiiiip - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:28:10 PM EST

*shrug* -NT - (imric) - Dec. 23, 2005, 12:31:30 PM EST

I'm sorry to hear that, hope you recover fast - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 22, 2005, 08:54:29 PM EST

Hey L, Sorry to hear you are battling the killer bug again. - (imqwerky) - (11) - Dec. 22, 2005, 11:23:44 PM EST

God, Amy, just put the nail in my coffin.. - (bionerd) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:40:29 AM EST

Drink Guinness. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:42:39 AM EST

bloooorrrggg -NT - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:45:45 AM EST

Funny. That's what *I* say after about 8 pints or so. -NT - (pwhysall) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:47:29 AM EST

BRILLIANT! -NT - (bepatient) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:51:44 AM EST

sorry :-( - (imqwerky) - (1) - Dec. 25, 2005, 12:21:31 AM EST

remember cognac for chest whiskey for head - (boxley) - Dec. 25, 2005, 02:53:14 AM EST

Whatever happened to chicken soup? :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:44:43 AM EST

You need to know which soul.... - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:21:48 AM EST

Well, I figure 'Chicken Soup for the Chicken's Soul' . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:36:17 AM EST

what do you mean "too cold for popsicles"? - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 11:16:54 AM EST

Only one suggestion - - (Ashton) - (6) - Dec. 23, 2005, 07:17:18 AM EST

Its not the snow angels I'm worried about - (bionerd) - (5) - Dec. 23, 2005, 08:31:36 AM EST

Like I told my wife yesterday - (drewk) - (4) - Dec. 23, 2005, 09:44:51 AM EST

Is there a reason? - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:09:43 PM EST

Just that we've had this discussion before - (drewk) - (2) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:19:38 PM EST

Ah. I thought it might have been something else. -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Dec. 23, 2005, 02:36:18 PM EST

Had same thoughts, especially since my sdaughter's news.. -NT - (jbrabeck) - Dec. 23, 2005, 03:09:52 PM EST

Who are you going to snag by being a jerk? - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:44:03 PM EST

I didn't say that. - (imric) - Dec. 20, 2005, 03:58:26 PM EST

Being the right kind of jerk apparently works on you - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Dec. 20, 2005, 01:25:43 PM EST

Well, someone's clearly in the holiday spirit - (drewk) - (3) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:02:31 PM EST

Thank you. :-D -NT - (Another Scott) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:50:18 PM EST

is that before or after jerking the chain? -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:53:24 PM EST

Right after... - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:58:07 PM EST

Of course, you did marry a jerk - (tuberculosis) - (4) - Dec. 20, 2005, 02:58:05 PM EST

Doesn't matter - (broomberg) - Dec. 20, 2005, 07:41:17 PM EST

Unavoidable - the \ufffdber-Jerks are in Stealth mode the longest - (Ashton) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:25:28 PM EST

Of course, if you had been more persistant - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 22, 2005, 04:24:02 PM EST

+3: Innovation!___;^> -NT - (Ashton) - Dec. 23, 2005, 07:19:55 AM EST

Being too nice gets no respect. - (tonytib) - Dec. 20, 2005, 04:31:19 PM EST

Well, I kept communications lines open . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (5) - Dec. 18, 2005, 10:59:36 PM EST

Just hang out with me for a couple of weeks. - (broomberg) - Dec. 19, 2005, 06:18:29 AM EST

ask her if she has any loose friends you can nail -NT - (boxley) - Dec. 19, 2005, 09:34:12 AM EST

Hmmm . . . this book may not be so useful after all. - (Andrew Grygus) - (2) - Dec. 19, 2005, 11:58:24 PM EST

And you thought it would be??? - (bionerd) - (1) - Dec. 20, 2005, 09:39:28 AM EST

I'm sure the techniques in it are effective . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Dec. 20, 2005, 10:56:40 AM EST

Shock the monkey!
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