Well, someone's clearly in the holiday spirit

bionerd says that she wants a Neanderthal, and people start trying to impress her. ;-)

But you're right. I did go overboard. I shouldn't have made my post that personal. I'm sorry for having done so.

However I still think it obvious that guys who are successful with women tend to be jerks. Cause and effect is not so obvious, but the correlation is clear.

A note about cause and effect in this case. Most here seem to believe that jerks have an advantage with women. But cause could easily go the other way: if you have easy success with women, you have less incentive to pay attention to their feelings. And the relationship might be very indirect. For instance practice makes perfect. So men who are really good at picking up women are likely to be men who have done a lot of it. Which gives jerks an advantage, because they keep picking up women after they've already succeeded.

But whatever the cause, we've all seen the result. There are a lot of jerks who are unreasonably successful with women.

Cheers,
Ben

Post #238,640 by drewk 12/20/05 2:02:31 PM Reply	Well, someone's clearly in the holiday spirit That holiday being Festivus. We seem to have commenced with the Airing of Grievances. When do the Feats of Strength start? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #238,643 by Another Scott 12/20/05 2:50:18 PM Reply	Thank you. :-D
Post #238,644 by boxley 12/20/05 2:53:24 PM Reply	is that before or after jerking the chain? "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #238,675 by ben_tilly 12/20/05 4:58:07 PM Reply	Right after... bionerd says that she wants a Neanderthal, and people start trying to impress her. ;-) But you're right. I did go overboard. I shouldn't have made my post that personal. I'm sorry for having done so. However I still think it obvious that guys who are successful with women tend to be jerks. Cause and effect is not so obvious, but the correlation is clear. A note about cause and effect in this case. Most here seem to believe that jerks have an advantage with women. But cause could easily go the other way: if you have easy success with women, you have less incentive to pay attention to their feelings. And the relationship might be very indirect. For instance practice makes perfect. So men who are really good at picking up women are likely to be men who have done a lot of it. Which gives jerks an advantage, because they keep picking up women after they've already succeeded. But whatever the cause, we've all seen the result. There are a lot of jerks who are unreasonably successful with women. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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