Post #238,538
12/19/05 10:55:02 AM
12/19/05 9:37:08 PM
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For argument's sake, where would be the best place to run?
I was thinking about that the other day. I thought of Australia and Finland, since we have contacts in those two countries and they seem to be pretty stable. Mind you, this is purely hypothetical at this point, but if things deteriorated to the point that we should run, I think it is something worth discussing.
Have at it!
Peace,
Amy
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"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
Edited by imqwerky
Dec. 19, 2005, 09:37:08 PM EST
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Post #238,539
12/19/05 11:02:23 AM
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Australia has riots.
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Post #238,561
12/19/05 2:02:57 PM
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*Everywhere* has riots.
Well, apart from Antarctica.
Peter
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Post #238,564
12/19/05 2:19:52 PM
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I don't know...
when those penguins get agitated and start rampaging around...
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Post #238,598
12/20/05 3:03:57 AM
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s/has/had/ (fingers crossed it remains like that)
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #238,542
12/19/05 11:11:48 AM
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Depends.
I'd run to the ballot box with a few dozen of my closest friends.
Oh, you mean where would one emigrate to? Well, that depends too. If you've got enough money, you can live very well, with many of the personal freedoms we come to expect, almost anywhere. (E.g. Arthur C. Clarke lives in Sri Lanka.)
Don't panic. Politics goes in cycles. The national politics will swing leftward again, and probably pretty soon. I don't think Bush is going to be able to hand-wave his way out of his current predicament. I don't think it'll come to impeachment, but I think things like the recent NSA disclosure, the Little Red Book story, etc., are causing people to realize that checks on the executive have been too weak and must be strengthened.
But to answer your question, if I had to leave it would probably be to Canada. Nice people up there, reasonable freedoms, a reasonable economy, not as crowded as Europe, and very much like the US in many respects.
But I'm not packing my bags anytime soon. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #238,549
12/19/05 12:57:03 PM
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He won't have to hand-wave.
All he'll have to do is utter the magic words: "Save American Lives", and all his problems will magically disappear.
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #238,553
12/19/05 1:17:53 PM
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Dunno. Sens. Levin and Feingold sound pretty pissed off now.
See [link|http://switchboard.real.com/player/email.html?PV=6.0.12&&title=Democratic%20Senators%20on%20U.S.%20Policy%20in%20Iraq&link=rtsp%3A%2F%2Fvideo.c%2Dspan.org%2Fproject%2Firaq%2Firaq121905%5Fdems.rm|C-Span Real] link (39:33). If that doesn't work for you, check [link|http://www.c-span.org/homepage.asp?Cat=Current_Event&Code=Terr&ShowVidNum=25&Rot_Cat_CD=911_Resp&Rot_HT=&Rot_WD=&ShowVidDays=30&ShowVidDesc=&ArchiveDays=365|this] link to Recent Programs and look for "Sens. Levin (D-MI), Feingold (D-WI), & Reed (D-RI) on Iraq & Patriot Act (12/19/2005)".
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #238,554
12/19/05 1:21:02 PM
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I'm happy they're PO'ed
but tht's not news (esp. for Feingold, who was the only senator with a set re: the Iraq "incursion"). Now show me a Repo who's pissed, and I say you've got something.
(Breath not being held...)
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #238,552
12/19/05 1:16:21 PM
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I've got a short list
that I've been lengthening year after year.
[link|http://www.escapeartist.com|http://www.escapeartist.com] is a good resource.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #238,557
12/19/05 1:35:24 PM
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think I would rather live in Nigeria than Belize
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #238,560
12/19/05 1:57:20 PM
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Nigeria, huh?
So we can be expecting emails:
I AM BOXLEY, FORMER MINISTER OF PETROLIUM EXPORT. I NEED YOUR ASSISTANCE FOR A VERY DELICATE FINANCIAL TRANSACTION. A FUND OF $16,000,000 WAS SET ASIDE BY MY OFFICE . . .
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Post #238,562
12/19/05 2:07:08 PM
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Well you could always visit my home for wayward girls
bar, grill and std clinic.
use the profit to pay for a T-1 and 20 used machines, leasing them out for a percentage of the gross. Wow! sniff, just like old timeshares and MAI stock.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #238,572
12/19/05 3:44:24 PM
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Its not on my list either
But, out of curiosity, what don't you like about it?
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #238,575
12/19/05 3:57:56 PM
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The people, Belize is the scphincter of the world
thay know you will never willingly return so treat you like garbage, mexico, guatamala or honduras are much nicer, cleaner repectful places.
the only decent thing about the place is the billiken beer.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #238,576
12/19/05 4:23:47 PM
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Since you ask
The UK. Speak the same language, similar culture, temperate climate and few fanatics (except for animal rights activists). And certainly don't buy the War on Terror bull.
Oh, alright. The US populace don't buy the War on Terror anymore, either. In this case, I think no Senator hasn't gotten round to curtailing what was once the golden boy department.
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
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Post #238,577
12/19/05 4:25:21 PM
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Temperate climate...
For how much longer, once the Gulf Stream cold water return mechanism shuts down?
And, you have chavs.
Regards,
-scott anderson
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Post #238,594
12/20/05 12:40:37 AM
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Chavs == trailer trash
We all gots 'em.
Peter
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Post #238,581
12/19/05 5:16:24 PM
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Re: Since you ask
You freaks don't allow an armed populace, so only the criminals have firearms. Hell, even the local constabulary doesn't walk around armed. What a mind-boggling concept.
-YendorMike
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
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Post #238,596
12/20/05 12:53:24 AM
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Now, now.
You're just trying to start a fight.
After all, when thirty thousand of your countrymen get shot to death every year, you're entitled to be a little bit twisted.
It's like a little Vietnam! Every year!
Just remember, kids; looking at books by Teh Communists is as bad as being one of Teh Communists!
War Is Peace! Ignorance Is Strength! Freedom Is Slavery!
(And anyway, isn't your gun kept in a locked cabinet away from its ammunition? Sorta defeats the point, dunnit?)
Peter
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Post #238,583
12/19/05 5:46:16 PM
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rather live in a place that allows you to defend yourself
without going to jail.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #238,595
12/20/05 12:43:52 AM
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Yeah, but your police keep shooting you.
All balances out, I reckon.
Peter
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Post #238,605
12/20/05 7:14:14 AM
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Funny...
While I HAVE used a shotgun to drive off an intruder, I've never been shot at by a cop.
*chuckle*
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #238,607
12/20/05 8:38:04 AM
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only if I venture on the subway with my backpack
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #238,589
12/19/05 9:46:45 PM
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depends if you got a buck or two
transylvania, nice rate of exchange, cheap labor and reasonably safe
Borneo, muggy climate, and in the right location no problems,
Taku, like Alaska without all the fucking yankees and californicators
Angel R. Cabada Mexico south of Vera Crux, Tuxla is nicer, on the ocean but more expensive.
India, but only certain semi rural areas
Isle St Pierre, French Protectorate in the St Laurence Estuary
Argentina, decent steaks, not too dangerous
Morocco, Algiers but with more cash than I have
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
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Post #239,256
12/23/05 4:01:06 PM
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Switzerland -- they have the best chocolate!
Not to mention a well-armed populace
lincoln
"Chicago to my mind was the only place to be. ... I above all liked the city because it was filled with people all a-bustle, and the clatter of hooves and carriages, and with delivery wagons and drays and peddlers and the boom and clank of freight trains. And when those black clouds came sailing in from the west, pouring thunderstorms upon us so that you couldn't hear the cries or curses of humankind, I liked that best of all. Chicago could stand up to the worst God had to offer. I understood why it was built--a place for trade, of course, with railroads and ships and so on, but mostly to give all of us a magnitude of defiance that is not provided by one house on the plains. And the plains is where those storms come from." -- E.L. Doctorow
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