FWIW, all women aren't like that.

Post #238,231 by Another Scott 12/15/05 11:22:19 PM Reply	FWIW, all women aren't like that. I really do think you'd have better luck away from SoCal. Maybe take a cooking class or something at whatever passes for Continuing Education or Parks & Recreation out there. Anything to mix with a different group of people may help. Keep hunting. She's out there somewhere. :-) Cheers, Scott.
Post #238,233 by Andrew Grygus 12/15/05 11:32:02 PM Reply	Yeah, I'm work'n on that . . . . . but I'm work'n the other angle too, just in case, and just in case I need it to close a deal. I'll be practicing on "L", 'cause I can do that with a clear conscience - they way she's treated me she deserves it (and here nobody thought I could become more cynical than I already was :p). [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #238,234 by broomberg 12/15/05 11:34:33 PM Reply	Start with insulting them Drop hints that with a little bit of effort they would be worthy.
Post #238,235 by Andrew Grygus 12/15/05 11:47:44 PM Reply	That appears to be the essential point. It's rather difficult for me because I've always liked women, but if that's what they want, that's what I'll learn to deliver. Apparently, if you don't insult them and let them know they're unworthy, they figure they can do better than you and toss you aside. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #238,236 by Another Scott 12/15/05 11:51:54 PM Reply	I dunno... Relationships are complicated, but I don't think that insults are the way to go. Probably the most important thing is to be interesting. Have some quality that makes someone want to be around you. E.g. Be a good listener; be able to tell funny stories or jokes; have an area of expertise that can be explained to others in an interesting way; be someone that others can trust; demonstrate that you can take care of yourself but that you're not a hermit; have empathy for others; etc. I'm sure Andrew can do those things very, very well. I suspect that he's just not meeting the right type of people yet. Starting off by insulting people or annoying them probably isn't going to win many people over. Yes, like many of us, I'm amazed by the apparent prevalence of women who seem to be attracted to apes. But would you really want to be with a woman like that for more than a trivially short period of time? I wouldn't. FWIW. Cheers, Scott.
Post #238,239 by Andrew Grygus 12/16/05 12:21:42 AM Reply	Hey! You're being reasonable when . . . . . I'm being cynical. Stop that. Of course I'm not meeting enough of the right kind of women, and I'm trying to figure out where the hell they're all hiding. Until I find out I'll just have to entertain myself with fantasies of "heartless manipulation" of the women I do meet. There is, however, one absolute rule which I've experienced from both sides (more than once each way). If you aren't getting laid no woman will touch you. If you're getting plenty, you have no problem finding other women to decorate your bed. It's kind of like "gaydar" amongst the "boys". They know. Nobody knows how they know, but they know. That's a real sticking point right now because I tossed out my last regular for high crimes and worse (incredibly loud snoring which she rather enjoyed, fanatic support of the Bush administration and the war in Iraq, as well as being totally unhelpful around the house) before finding a replacement. Now I need to find something (preferably this side of a sheep) to get back in the game. If that takes "heartless manipulation", so be it. I'm not the one making the rules here. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #238,263 by broomberg 12/16/05 6:44:42 AM Reply	Kinda like taking any job when unemployed Then you are marketable. Grab something for a while, prime the pump, start producing pheromones, and go get what you really want.
Post #238,280 by boxley 12/16/05 10:04:32 AM Reply	are you narrowing choices by color weight accents? Maybe widening to options not previous considered? Although slopping hogs on a regular basis can get old. thanks, Bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #238,288 by Andrew Grygus 12/16/05 10:38:34 AM Reply	Well, here's my preferences . . you tell me. First preference: European / Mediterranean / Slavic / Jewish / Turk-Armenian / Near Eastern with dark hair. Close Second: Same with light hair. Close third: Hispanic & mixed I don't find a Russian accent attractive in a woman but the right person could overcome that. Not particularly attracted to Asians - probably due to lack of experience - would be willing to consider if not too thin. Not compatible with blacks due to "black culture" - been close enough to know. The affair with the "Apache Princess" (half Apache, half Aztec) was interesting and enjoyable but she and her whole family were so derisive of "white culture" it didn't work out in the long run. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #238,306 by boxley 12/16/05 11:42:45 AM Reply	well you really are not representative of "white" culture olive complected brunnettes. Dunno how far you are from here [link\|http://www.supersingles.us/index.html.Or\|http://www.supersingles.us/index.html.Or] this one [link\|http://www.supersinglemixers.com/\|http://www.supersinglemixers.com/] looks like they have real annoying broads. You spend time in the asian markets, look at the women as well as the food. Never know.Man, Good Luck, thanx, bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #238,661 by tonytib 12/20/05 3:57:00 PM Reply	Chinese probably not good match considering that many Chinese women think that any kind of rear end is big, etc. Maybe an ABC (American Born Chinese) or mix (often very attractive) Also, I find it interesting that in a culture that values sons highly, many modern mainland Chinese women are quite spoiled, and not at all subserviant. Tony
Post #238,689 by boxley 12/20/05 6:25:59 PM Reply	no they prefer their men pw'ed I work with several ladies from the mainland, funny, pretty, smart and unless you need a personal director dont hook up with one. thanx, bill "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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