Point taken

Post #236,105 by bepatient 11/26/05 5:04:31 PM Reply	Point taken simply because you understand the point :-) Level of engagement is necessary and some of those locations simply didn't have a level of engagement to make them a good comparison. Also, the Vietam comparison is the one drawn upon by the opposition (probably because the others weren't entered into by Rep leadership) so the comparison is simply to point to that and say, "This is nowhere near that level". If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #236,118 by ben_tilly 11/26/05 6:58:16 PM Reply	Big nit Let's review the last hundred years of wars. WW I, WW II, the Korean War, Vietnam, and Bosnia were all entered into by Democrats. Desert Storm, Somalia, and the present Iraq war were entered into by Republicans. By that quick count it seems that Democrats are more likely to engage us in wars, and the wars they engage us in on average kill more Americans than the ones that Republicans get us into. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #236,132 by bepatient 11/26/05 8:47:11 PM Reply	I should know better. The real point, and I should stick to those around here, I know, was that the common comparison that is being made for this current conflict is Vietnam. And Vietnam it is most defintely not...at least as far as casualty levels are concerned. Its not even close. I don't really much care for who started it. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #236,162 by ben_tilly 11/27/05 12:47:16 AM Reply	Right. Not by a factor of 10. But as [link\|http://www.lies.com/wp/2003/10/20/us-deaths-in-vietnam-and-iraq-by-month/\|http://www.lies.com/...nd-iraq-by-month/] points out, casualty rates are higher in Iraq than at the start of Vietnam. (But then again, so are troop levels.) Either way it is an uglier situation and looks to become uglier still. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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