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New Big nit
Let's review the last hundred years of wars.

WW I, WW II, the Korean War, Vietnam, and Bosnia were all entered into by Democrats. Desert Storm, Somalia, and the present Iraq war were entered into by Republicans.

By that quick count it seems that Democrats are more likely to engage us in wars, and the wars they engage us in on average kill more Americans than the ones that Republicans get us into.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New I should know better.
The real point, and I should stick to those around here, I know, was that the common comparison that is being made for this current conflict is Vietnam. And Vietnam it is most defintely not...at least as far as casualty levels are concerned. Its not even close.

I don't really much care for who started it.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Right. Not by a factor of 10.
But as [link|http://www.lies.com/wp/2003/10/20/us-deaths-in-vietnam-and-iraq-by-month/|http://www.lies.com/...nd-iraq-by-month/] points out, casualty rates are higher in Iraq than at the start of Vietnam. (But then again, so are troop levels.)

Either way it is an uglier situation and looks to become uglier still.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
     White Phosphorus, hype vs reality - (marlowe) - (20)
         Phil vs Pentagon - (rcareaga) - (1)
             you mean when I was calling in rounds of WP to Mark - (boxley)
         Looks like I hit a nerve! - (tuberculosis) - (17)
             One nit - (bepatient) - (12)
                 staggering losses - (rcareaga) - (1)
                     I see - (bepatient)
                 Nit again... - (Simon_Jester) - (4)
                     Point taken - (bepatient) - (3)
                         Big nit - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             I should know better. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 Right. Not by a factor of 10. - (ben_tilly)
                 I was talking about monetary cost. - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                     Cost of containment is $380 billion so invading was cheaper - (boxley) - (2)
                         Um, box...did you read that article?? - (Simon_Jester)
                         I hope their analysis is better than their OS analysis. - (Another Scott)
                 To the sufficiently staggerable, anything is staggering. - (marlowe)
             staggering loss of materiel maybe - (boxley) - (3)
                 Add in economic casualties - start with your kids - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                     nice slide from under your prognostications of doom :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                         Who needs prognostications - just look around. -NT - (Ashton)

Wow. I am just. Wow. Un-. Wow. You'd think...Nah. Wow.
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