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New Oh, I'm sorry.
Cocoons. I know all about those.

As for the rest of you stripper-obsessed boneheads, wanting to live your fantasies out through Don, leave him alone. Last I checked, ya'll werent in his relationship.
Go out and find your own stripper if you want one so bad.
Follow your MOUSE
New Can't. Married.
He's not.
And he's a big boy.
He'll choose whatever he wants.
We are merely observing and possibly showing options he may not have noticed.
New Nah, you just want to nail a stripper.
Follow your MOUSE
New Been there, done that.
While I may have certain regrets, the overall experience is one I'll cherish to my old age.
New Who the Heck are you to call Barry a liar?!? (new thread)
Created as new thread #235899 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=235899|Who the Heck are you to call Barry a liar?!?]


   [link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105|Mr. Hat]
New /me raises hand
I was merely suggesting that "DreamGirl" was pushing Don's buttons for a certain response and on more that one occasion, she kept getting the overprotective response of "I've known strippers, it's not a good life, yada yada yada..." From my perspective, she knows that strikes a nerve with Don and for some reason likes to keep hammering that point. Since they have only been out a couple of times, it is not Don's place to tell her what she should or should not do. I think she is playing head games.

So, Don has many choices. 1)He can completely stop seeing her. 2)He can continue to see her and continue to play this head game. 3) He can continue to see her but call her on her continual discussion of that subject (direct confrontation) And finally, 4) Continue to see her, but be more subtle when it comes to that subject (redirect the conversation or deflect all responsibility to her).

Don, considering that you have feelings for her, I don't want to see you throw the baby out with the bath water. Don't be afraid to face the real issue. I think she is worried about being controlled. It is so early in your relationship that this episode can be a learning experience for you both. Don't be afraid to risk a little. You might be surprised at the result.

Good luck and think positive.

Hugs,
Amy

"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
New I'm not going to lose a friend over this.
Her thinking on the whole stripper angle, as she explained it, is something like; I keep getting treated as if my good looks are the only good quality I have. Promotions at work etc. go to the guys. If my looks are getting in the way at my chosen profession, maybe I should get a stripper job where they *won't* get in the way. Once I can make enough money, I'll move to LA where my looks won't get in the way and I can go back to being an architect.

I don't think this is good. I've told her that. She doesn't agree. Nuff said. We'll stay drinking buddies and she has a shoulder to cry on when she needs it but I'm taking any romance off the table.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush

We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
New Huh?
I'll move to LA where my looks won't get in the way

Don't the guys in LA look at women?
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
New She might get lost in the crowd
There is a high density of attractive women out here. A large fraction think they are actresses.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New /me bows humbly and exits stage left
guess that's why they didn't ask me to take over Ann and Abby. :-)

She has some seriously flawed logic going on there, but you told her that and wouldn't listen.

I have been in that position before. I gave the best advice in the world, but it went in one ear and out the other. It's very frustrating when someone won't listen. I had to step back from the situation and I totally respect your decision to do the same.

I know that if I ever need some good advice, I can ask you. (Especially if I ever think of becoming a stripper ;-)

Hugs and peace,
Amy


"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
New Naw, You didn't take over for Ann & abby, cuz...
1) you don't live in Chicago and

2) You're not twins.


(Now there's a scary thought...twin quirks!)
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Would that make them quarks?
Don't think "top/bottom" ... don't think "top/bottom" ...
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New Squirks?

New ROFLMAO!
Although some believe I do have an "evil twin" ;-)

Peace - Peace
Amy - Amy

"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
New Some? Only those who know you.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Architect?
A real one?
Buildings and such?
New Yep. Still needs final certfication.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush

We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
New How far out is it?
And do you work with her closely, ie: do you see examples of people less qualified than her being promoted / given breaks, that she doesn't?

Because I have seen the opposite, up to a point. Really good looking women being given many opportunities that the average guy would not, even in the event of repeated screwups. It makes sense, from a horny guy perpective wanting them around. But eventually they Peter principle out, while having incredible expectations of how much more they "deserve". Which in turn leads to some serious bitterness and delusions of competentcy.

So I was wondering if you have 1st hand evidence of this treatment and what your judgement of it is.
New Can't help you on that
All I know about her job is what she tells me. I've never visited her place of business. Neither, as far as I know, has she mine.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush

We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
New Hmmmm
     Taking the plunge - (Silverlock) - (73)
         May it go well, Don! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         It's the boots - (Steve Lowe)
         Ahh, relax - (broomberg) - (4)
             I knew there was something I forgot about. - (Silverlock) - (3)
                 ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                 ROFL - (imric) - (1)
                     ObLink - (broomberg)
         :-) Excellent. Relax and have a great time. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Ah.. anticipation - (Ashton) - (1)
             except those used in the creation of latex -NT - (Steve Lowe)
         dive in :-) -NT - (boxley)
         Why? - (Andrew Grygus)
         Good luck, Silverlock! -NT - (Nightowl)
         hey, no kissing & telling... - (cforde)
         I know exactly how you feel - (bionerd)
         I just watched "Hitch" - (imqwerky)
         Plunge right in... OK - Prepare, *then* plunge right in! -NT - (CRConrad)
         So how did your hot night go? I want the dirt. -NT - (bionerd) - (55)
             It was fun - (Silverlock) - (54)
                 ICLPRD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                 Go D-on, Go D-on, you're the m-an, you're the m-an! - (bionerd) - (2)
                     You will steal their hearts, Bio - (imqwerky) - (1)
                         The report you requested: (new thread) - (bionerd)
                 Woooo Hooooo! - (imqwerky)
                 This thread is worthless without PICS! - (inthane-chan) - (46)
                     I'll ask if she has any of her portfolio in digital. - (Silverlock) - (45)
                         What do you look like? - (imqwerky) - (4)
                             I've a belly that knows how to receive beer. 40+ Lb over - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                 You sound cuddly to me (purrrrr) -NT - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                     Cuddly? I guess I could do worse. -NT - (Silverlock)
                                 you are shrinking, I lost 2 inches in past 3 years or so. - (boxley)
                         Sounds to me like you loooooooove her. ;-D - (bionerd) - (39)
                             I'm backing away from her. - (Silverlock) - (38)
                                 Sorry. :-( -NT - (Another Scott)
                                 :-( but like you said the grief aint worth it -NT - (boxley)
                                 You don't have to back away - (imqwerky) - (4)
                                     If you're right, and I wouldn't be surprised ... - (drewk) - (3)
                                         Oh please - (broomberg) - (2)
                                             Remember, he knows ex-strippers. He's not imagining things. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                 Re: Remember, he knows ex-strippers. - (Ashton)
                                 Hell no! - (broomberg) - (1)
                                     might go into management :-) -NT - (boxley)
                                 So, I think it's safe to say there are two POVs on this one - (jake123) - (1)
                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                 Don't, just yet - first, try to find out if she's angling... - (CRConrad) - (1)
                                     Don't forget to tune the state specific lap-dances. - (broomberg)
                                 Oh, I'm sorry. - (bionerd) - (19)
                                     Can't. Married. - (broomberg) - (18)
                                         Nah, you just want to nail a stripper. -NT - (bionerd) - (17)
                                             Been there, done that. - (broomberg)
                                             Who the Heck are you to call Barry a liar?!? (new thread) - (CRConrad)
                                             /me raises hand - (imqwerky) - (14)
                                                 I'm not going to lose a friend over this. - (Silverlock) - (13)
                                                     Huh? - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                                         She might get lost in the crowd - (ben_tilly)
                                                     /me bows humbly and exits stage left - (imqwerky) - (5)
                                                         Naw, You didn't take over for Ann & abby, cuz... - (jb4) - (4)
                                                             Would that make them quarks? - (drewk) - (3)
                                                                 Squirks? -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                                     ROFLMAO! - (imqwerky) - (1)
                                                                         Some? Only those who know you. -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                                     Architect? - (broomberg) - (4)
                                                         Yep. Still needs final certfication. -NT - (Silverlock) - (3)
                                                             How far out is it? - (broomberg) - (2)
                                                                 Can't help you on that - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                                     Hmmmm -NT - (broomberg)
                                 One possibility that nobody's mentioned... - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                     good point.. give her a dollar and see where she puts it -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                                         Sprite through the nose! -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                             Nah, she wouldn't put it there. - (pwhysall)
                                 :-(( -NT - (jb4)
                 OTOH - no pix, duude.. - (Ashton) - (1)
                     And having is never the pleasure of wanting. -NT - (mmoffitt)

You keep using that word, but I do not think that it means what you think it does.
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