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Post #235,534 by folkert 11/22/05 12:39:18 PM 11/22/05 1:23:47 PM Reply	WEEEEEE! (Great gallopin' goshes) Thanks for reminding me, though not really reminding me. I am now using Enlightenment as my window manager. It has been quite a while since I looked at E, I'd like to say: THANKS. I have to say, I am surprised. Especially now I get to get rid on my launcher farms. Everything I wanted is in E, and I still get GNOME. Schweet. Now to turn off the things I don't want, as GNOME does some of the tasks the way I want. But most tasks or events i want E to take care of. And, if I am remembering right Enlightenment was the default GNOME Window Manager for a good while early on (pre 1.0 through 1.2, I believe) It still seems to work just fine. I'll start a new thread IF I find anything I can't do (or remember howto do) which is doubtful. (Though recently I forgot the tags for underlining text, in HTML... ahhh!) /me is now discovering all the things he missed again. Edit: AHHHHHH! I have window Grouping again! AHHHH! AHHHH! I have sane Window Shading again. AHHH! I can turn off brders or not per window and have it remember it!!! AHHH even gnome-terminal works with autochanging my text color schemes... ahhhhhhhhhh...... Maximum Window heights and widths, stacking rules, icon boxes, plus nautilus behave differently now... better. Configurable workspace flips, configurable snap-to, macro definitions, menu rules... script that work with the window manager... WOOOOOHOOOO! /me runs around skipping for joy, jumping up and down in defferent location as to not ruin the concrete /me explodes into a puddle of utter pleasantness. AHHHHHHH! Below are the keybindings for E as it comes "from the factory" CTRL+ALT+Home - Re-shuffle windows on screen to be Clean CTRL+ALT+Del - Exit Enlightenment and Log Out CTRL+ALT+End - Restart Enlightenment CTRL+ALT+Up-Arrow - Raise window to top CTRL+ALT+Down-Arrow - Lower window to the bottom CTRL+ALT+Left-Arrow - Go to the previous desktop CTRL+ALT+Right-Arrow - Go to the next desktop CTRL+ALT+X - Close the currently focused window CTRL+ALT+K - Kill the currently focused window nastily CTRL+ALT+I - Iconify the currently focused window CTRL+ALT+R - Shade/Unshade the currently focused window CTRL+ALT+S - Stick/Unstick the currently focused window CTRL+ALT+(F1 - F12) - Go directly to desktops 0 - 11 ALT+Tab - Switch focus to the next window ALT+Enter - Zoom/Unzoom the currently focused window SHIFT+ALT+Left-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop on the left if there is one SHIFT+ALT+Right-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop on the right if there is one SHIFT+ALT+Up-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop above if there is one SHIFT+ALT+Down-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop below if there is one /greg's brain dribbles out his ear (only his left one as the eardrum is perforated) -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned. Edited by folkert Nov. 22, 2005, 12:49:44 PM EST Edited by folkert Nov. 22, 2005, 01:23:47 PM EST WEEEEEE! (Great gallopin' goshes) Thanks for reminding me, though not really reminding me. I am now using Enlightenment as my window manager. It has been quite a while since I looked at E, I'd like to say: THANKS. I have to say, I am surprised. Especially now I get to get rid on my launcher farms. Everything I wanted is in E, and I still get GNOME. Schweet. Now to turn off the things I don't want, as GNOME does some of the tasks the way I want. But most tasks or events i want E to take care of. And, if I am remembering right Enlightenment was the default GNOME Window Manager for a good while early on (pre 1.0 through 1.2, I believe) It still seems to work just fine. I'll start a new thread IF I find anything I can't do (or remember howto do) which is doubtful. (Though recently I forgot the tags for underlining text, in HTML... ahhh!) /me is now discovering all the things he missed again. Edit: AHHHHHH! I have window Grouping again! AHHHH! AHHHH! I have sane Window Shading again. AHHH! I can turn off brders or not per window and have it remember it!!! AHHH even gnome-terminal works with autochanging my text color schemes... ahhhhhhhhhh...... Maximum Window heights and widths, stacking rules, icon boxes, plus nautilus behave differently now... better. Configurable workspace flips, configurable snap-to, macro definitions, menu rules... script that work with the window manager... WOOOOOHOOOO! /me runs around skipping for joy, jumping up and down in defferent location as to not ruin the concrete /me explodes into a puddle of utter pleasantness. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? 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Post #235,550 by Another Scott 11/22/05 2:27:46 PM Reply	What hardware are you running that on? One of the old bugaboos about E! was it was very resource-heavy. How's it these days? Are you running it on Barry's Quad Opeteron? ;-) Thanks. Cheers, Scott.
Post #235,551 by pwhysall 11/22/05 2:32:35 PM Reply	Re: What hardware are you running that on? It was resource-heavy on old P233 boxes with S3 ViRGE graphics cards and 256MB of RAM if you were really lucky. Today, it's just another WM. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #235,643 by folkert 11/23/05 9:37:01 AM Reply	Very Lean, comparatively Xorg is significantly lighter on resource use, while using E!. Matter of fact Metacity used 25MB and E! only uses 10MB. Infact, that is with a ton of special fun stuffs enabled. Xorg went from 200MB of resources IN USE with a tons reserved using Metcity, down to 100MB with E!. Mind you, I was running Evolution, about 50 terms, VMware(with 768MB allocated), Firefox, GAIM and a crap-shoot of other proggys. Even @ home it rocks. Oh, I changed Window Managers with out restarting X or GNOME or even logging out. Everything survived. The only problem I haven't figured out is registering the config stuff with GNOME, so it works from the "windows" thinger in the gnome-tool-center Oh, also all key-bindings seem to be controlled by E! now... a bit annoying at first, but very very manageable. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.
Post #235,653 by pwhysall 11/23/05 10:36:06 AM Reply	OT: X's reported memory usage means nowt Every lil' mmap() that uses shared memory is in that total. Gauging X's performance by the size of its RSS is a fruitless exercise. Peter [link\|http://www.no2id.net/\|Don't Let The Terrorists Win] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #235,738 by folkert 11/23/05 6:14:02 PM Reply	Yes, I understand that is the case. But, I m talking about the code and data stack. Those two mean more than RSS. But in anycase. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* Freedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0; 0 rows returned.

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