Post #235,534
11/22/05 12:39:18 PM
11/22/05 1:23:47 PM
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WEEEEEE! (Great gallopin' goshes)
Thanks for reminding me, though not really reminding me.
I am now using Enlightenment as my window manager.
It has been quite a while since I looked at E, I'd like to say: THANKS.
I have to say, I am surprised. Especially now I get to get rid on my launcher farms.
Everything I wanted is in E, and I still get GNOME.
Schweet. Now to turn off the things I don't want, as GNOME does some of the tasks the way I want. But most tasks or events i want E to take care of.
And, if I am remembering right Enlightenment was the default GNOME Window Manager for a good while early on (pre 1.0 through 1.2, I believe)
It still seems to work just fine. I'll start a new thread *IF* I find anything I can't do (or remember howto do) which is doubtful. (Though recently I forgot the tags for underlining text, in HTML... ahhh!)
/me is now discovering all the things he missed again.
Edit: AHHHHHH! I have window Grouping again! AHHHH! AHHHH! I have sane Window Shading again. AHHH! I can turn off brders or not per window and have it remember it!!! AHHH even gnome-terminal works with autochanging my text color schemes... ahhhhhhhhhh......
Maximum Window heights and widths, stacking rules, icon boxes, plus nautilus behave differently now... better. Configurable workspace flips, configurable snap-to, macro definitions, menu rules... script that work with the window manager... WOOOOOHOOOO!
/me runs around skipping for joy, jumping up and down in defferent location as to not ruin the concrete
/me explodes into a puddle of utter pleasantness.
AHHHHHHH!
Below are the keybindings for E as it comes "from the factory"
CTRL+ALT+Home - Re-shuffle windows on screen to be Clean
CTRL+ALT+Del - Exit Enlightenment and Log Out
CTRL+ALT+End - Restart Enlightenment
CTRL+ALT+Up-Arrow - Raise window to top
CTRL+ALT+Down-Arrow - Lower window to the bottom
CTRL+ALT+Left-Arrow - Go to the previous desktop
CTRL+ALT+Right-Arrow - Go to the next desktop
CTRL+ALT+X - Close the currently focused window
CTRL+ALT+K - Kill the currently focused window nastily
CTRL+ALT+I - Iconify the currently focused window
CTRL+ALT+R - Shade/Unshade the currently focused window
CTRL+ALT+S - Stick/Unstick the currently focused window
CTRL+ALT+(F1 - F12) - Go directly to desktops 0 - 11
ALT+Tab - Switch focus to the next window
ALT+Enter - Zoom/Unzoom the currently focused window
SHIFT+ALT+Left-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop on the left if there is one
SHIFT+ALT+Right-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop on the right if there is one
SHIFT+ALT+Up-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop above if there is one
SHIFT+ALT+Down-Arrow - Move to the virtual desktop below if there is one
/greg's brain dribbles out his ear (only his left one as the eardrum is perforated)
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
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Edited by folkert
Nov. 22, 2005, 12:49:44 PM EST
Another thing! (Great gallopin' goshes)
Thanks for reminding me, though not really reminding me.
I am now using Enlightenment as my window manager.
It has been quite a while since I looked at E, I'd like to say: THANKS.
I have to say, I am surprised. Especially now I get to get rid on my launcher farms.
Everything I wanted is in E, and I still get GNOME.
Schweet. Now to turn off the things I don't want, as GNOME does some of the tasks the way I want. But most tasks or events i want E to take care of.
And, if I am remembering right Enlightenment was the default GNOME Window Manager for a good while early on (pre 1.0 through 1.2, I believe)
It still seems to work just fine. I'll start a new thread *IF* I find anything I can't do (or remember howto do) which is doubtful. (Though recently I forgot the tags for underlining text, in HTML... ahhh!)
/me is now discovering all the things he missed again.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
0 rows returned.
Edited by folkert
Nov. 22, 2005, 01:23:47 PM EST
WEEEEEE! (Great gallopin' goshes)
Thanks for reminding me, though not really reminding me.
I am now using Enlightenment as my window manager.
It has been quite a while since I looked at E, I'd like to say: THANKS.
I have to say, I am surprised. Especially now I get to get rid on my launcher farms.
Everything I wanted is in E, and I still get GNOME.
Schweet. Now to turn off the things I don't want, as GNOME does some of the tasks the way I want. But most tasks or events i want E to take care of.
And, if I am remembering right Enlightenment was the default GNOME Window Manager for a good while early on (pre 1.0 through 1.2, I believe)
It still seems to work just fine. I'll start a new thread *IF* I find anything I can't do (or remember howto do) which is doubtful. (Though recently I forgot the tags for underlining text, in HTML... ahhh!)
/me is now discovering all the things he missed again.
Edit: AHHHHHH! I have window Grouping again! AHHHH! AHHHH! I have sane Window Shading again. AHHH! I can turn off brders or not per window and have it remember it!!! AHHH even gnome-terminal works with autochanging my text color schemes... ahhhhhhhhhh......
Maximum Window heights and widths, stacking rules, icon boxes, plus nautilus behave differently now... better. Configurable workspace flips, configurable snap-to, macro definitions, menu rules... script that work with the window manager... WOOOOOHOOOO!
/me runs around skipping for joy, jumping up and down in defferent location as to not ruin the concrete
/me explodes into a puddle of utter pleasantness.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
0 rows returned.
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Post #235,550
11/22/05 2:27:46 PM
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What hardware are you running that on?
One of the old bugaboos about E! was it was very resource-heavy. How's it these days? Are you running it on Barry's Quad Opeteron? ;-)
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #235,551
11/22/05 2:32:35 PM
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Re: What hardware are you running that on?
It was resource-heavy on old P233 boxes with S3 ViRGE graphics cards and 256MB of RAM if you were really lucky.
Today, it's just another WM.
Peter
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Post #235,643
11/23/05 9:37:01 AM
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Very Lean, comparatively
Xorg is significantly lighter on resource use, while using E!.
Matter of fact Metacity used 25MB and E! only uses 10MB.
Infact, that is with a ton of special fun stuffs enabled.
Xorg went from 200MB of resources IN USE with a tons reserved using Metcity, down to 100MB with E!.
Mind you, I was running Evolution, about 50 terms, VMware(with 768MB allocated), Firefox, GAIM and a crap-shoot of other proggys.
Even @ home it rocks.
Oh, I changed Window Managers with out restarting X or GNOME or even logging out. Everything survived.
The only problem I haven't figured out is registering the config stuff with GNOME, so it works from the "windows" thinger in the gnome-tool-center
Oh, also all key-bindings seem to be controlled by E! now... a bit annoying at first, but very very manageable.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
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Post #235,653
11/23/05 10:36:06 AM
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OT: X's reported memory usage means nowt
Every lil' mmap() that uses shared memory is in that total.
Gauging X's performance by the size of its RSS is a fruitless exercise.
Peter
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Post #235,738
11/23/05 6:14:02 PM
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Yes, I understand that is the case.
But, I m talking about the code and data stack.
Those two mean more than RSS.
But in anycase.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyFreedom is not FREE. Yeah, but 10s of Trillions of US Dollars? SELECT * FROM scog WHERE ethics > 0;
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