Post #233,643
11/11/05 8:15:51 PM
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Taking the plunge
My first real date after an embarrassingly large number of years with an actual real live woman will be tomorrow night. I am quite surprised at how nervous I am.
I was invited to a party and was told I could bring a SO. As I don't have one of those wonderful creatures, I was left in a quandry. I pondered and cogitated on the problem and realized I knew the perfect choice. A drinking buddy of some standing happens to be of the female persuasion and, as it turns out, was not averse to accompanying me to this event.
I am still surprised she agreed. The woman is seriously bright, with a biting, sarcastic wit and is, with no reservation, one of the most stunningly beautiful women I have ever known. A budding architect and an ex-model, she has a refreshingly down to earth manner and one hell of a collection of stilleto heeled boots.
I'm still not sure how I found the nerve to ask her out but I did and now must deal with the unexpected acceptance. I don't know if I want to take this any further than drinking buddy status, but I find myself having daydreams about a goodnight kiss. What the hell is this? I feel like I'm in junior high again.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #233,646
11/11/05 8:23:50 PM
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May it go well, Don!
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #233,648
11/11/05 8:35:11 PM
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It's the boots
They'd make me nervous, too.
Good luck and HAVE FUN!
--
Steve
[link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu]
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Post #233,649
11/11/05 8:35:38 PM
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Ahh, relax
She'll probably jump you 1st chance she gets.
It's up to you to simply lay the groundwork and make sure she gets a chance.
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Post #233,657
11/11/05 8:59:54 PM
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I knew there was something I forgot about.
House cleaning time. Just in case.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #233,660
11/11/05 9:22:46 PM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #233659 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=233659|ICLRPD]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #233,731
11/12/05 8:50:10 AM
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ROFL
What's the saying? Men live like bears with furniture?
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #233,732
11/12/05 8:55:53 AM
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ObLink
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=106754|http://z.iwethey.org...?contentid=106754]
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Post #233,667
11/11/05 9:43:37 PM
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:-) Excellent. Relax and have a great time.
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Post #233,671
11/11/05 10:06:35 PM
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Ah.. anticipation
+ endorphins.
(No algorithms need apply ;-)
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Post #233,672
11/11/05 10:15:13 PM
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except those used in the creation of latex
--
Steve
[link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu]
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Post #233,679
11/11/05 10:31:11 PM
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dive in :-)
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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Post #233,682
11/11/05 10:38:19 PM
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Why?
Why was being with an actual real live woman for a large number of years embarrassing? What is the status of this current woman -actual real live or otherwise? Perverted minds want to know
" . . after an embarrassingly large number of years with an actual real live woman . . "
But, whatever - hope it works out for you.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #233,702
11/11/05 11:38:03 PM
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Good luck, Silverlock!
"I'll rock the darn boat all I want to, and if it's meant to stay afloat, then it will. If not, then we'll just all go down with the bloody ship!"
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Post #233,718
11/12/05 2:56:13 AM
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hey, no kissing & telling...
have an appropriate amount of fun :-)
Carl Forde
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Post #233,743
11/12/05 10:09:46 AM
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I know exactly how you feel
Because I am all grown up now, I assumed dating would be different this time around. Each time though, I find that I have regressed to my 16 year old self.
Here's a tip for you- when you're showering and getting ready, dont forget to clean your ears. Seriously. Just because you cant see your own ears, dont think she not going to notice what's cultivating in there when she comes in for a nuzzle.
(You'll thank me for this)
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #233,795
11/12/05 5:18:44 PM
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I just watched "Hitch"
I thought it had some surprising good advice. I think the best advice, though, is be yourself. There was a reason she said yes and that is because you are YOU.
Don't over-analyze anything. Take a deep breath (pop a certs) and have a great time.
Wishing you all the best,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #233,804
11/12/05 6:15:36 PM
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Plunge right in... OK - Prepare, *then* plunge right in!
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Post #235,092
11/19/05 10:33:54 AM
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So how did your hot night go? I want the dirt.
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,113
11/19/05 12:05:46 PM
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It was fun
The party was a sorta-kinda birthday party. The host told me later the best birthday present he got all evening was seeing my date's outfit. Did I mention she's hot? We've had another date since then that was slightly more intimate (it's a lot easier to talk in a restaraunt than at a party with 70 other people around).
Good night kiss? Sorry, that would be telling. I have hired a cleaning crew though...
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #235,116
11/19/05 12:09:58 PM
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ICLPRD (new thread)
Created as new thread #235115 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=235115|ICLPRD]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #235,122
11/19/05 12:34:49 PM
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Go D-on, Go D-on, you're the m-an, you're the m-an!
I going out with some friends tonight and just got a call from another friend inviting me to a party at her friend's house, and *this* friend always has a lot of single men at her parties. So there you go. This could turn out to be a very interesting evening. I'm sending the kids to grandma's to spend the night :-)
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,127
11/19/05 1:34:03 PM
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You will steal their hearts, Bio
Now, there is a party where I would like to be a fly on the wall :0)
If you are half as much fun in person as you are here (and on the phone), lookout!
Hope you have a great time. Looking forward to full report!
Hugs,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #235,224
11/20/05 12:21:27 PM
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The report you requested: (new thread)
Created as new thread #235223 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=235223|The report you requested:]
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,126
11/19/05 1:31:13 PM
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Woooo Hooooo!
See, we aren't the only ones who think you rock! Glad to hear you had such a good time.
Love, hugs, and Peace!
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #235,365
11/21/05 4:17:14 PM
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This thread is worthless without PICS!
</Genmay>
When somebody asks you to trade your freedom for security, it isn't your security they're talking about.
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Post #235,424
11/21/05 9:24:03 PM
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I'll ask if she has any of her portfolio in digital.
Until then, allow me; Picture green eyes (watch her with the sun behind you shining on her face and see the most sparking, the most clear, the most most brilliant emerald green eyes, almond shaped to boot), a high forehead and pronounced cheekbones with a somewhat-too-strong chin. Her face is lit with vitality and awareness.
Light blond hair coming to just barely above her shoulders. It has shimmering highlights of almost brassy red but mostly it's a sandy blond with a clean and vibrant glow of health and fullness. Her hairstyle is both business professional and runway perfect. Just barely off her shoulders in a sort of pageboy cut, it's somehow flawless for going out also. I don't know how she does it.
An Audry Hepburn neck on shoulders just slightly too wide. . .
Perhaps I shold stop. I wouldn't want to be accused of gushing.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #235,425
11/21/05 9:28:21 PM
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What do you look like?
Somehow I just don't think you have a great, big 'fro :)
Well, c'mon, show us your bad self!
Peace,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #235,431
11/21/05 10:08:49 PM
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I've a belly that knows how to receive beer. 40+ Lb over
I have big-ass bags under my eyes. I'm just under six feet (and shrinking, I swear). I have very strong legs; my calves have been known to make grown women weep. Plain blue eyes and really good hair, the grey notwithstanding. I'm a standard old guy who used to be athletic and isn't anymore.
Bottom line; I'm no great shakes, but I'm no quasimodo.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #235,435
11/21/05 10:22:36 PM
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You sound cuddly to me (purrrrr)
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #235,439
11/21/05 10:37:19 PM
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Cuddly? I guess I could do worse.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #235,557
11/22/05 4:59:32 PM
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you are shrinking, I lost 2 inches in past 3 years or so.
height for the feeble minded amongst ya, length is still good.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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Post #235,695
11/23/05 1:02:37 PM
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Sounds to me like you loooooooove her. ;-D
It's great to hear about someone finding someone. I'm a sucker for romance. I plan to live vicariously through you for a while. Hope you dont mind.
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,772
11/23/05 8:26:40 PM
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I'm backing away from her.
I don't need another emotional vampire. Every time we go out she talks about how much money she could make as a stripper. I tell her how soul destroying the job is and she brings it up again the next time we go out. I am not going to be caught up in this. I've told her what it's like (a couple ex-strippers are friends of mine) and she doesn't seem to listen.
I think I'll go back into my cocoon for a while.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #235,773
11/23/05 8:51:42 PM
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Sorry. :-(
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Post #235,776
11/23/05 9:01:59 PM
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:-( but like you said the grief aint worth it
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #235,796
11/23/05 10:52:56 PM
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You don't have to back away
just don't play that game. She obviously is playing a card that rankles you. Drop it in the discard pile. Tell her you are thinking of becoming a male stripper. Then, don't let the subject come up anymore.
There are a million other topics of discussion. I'm sure she has other talents/ skills worth pursuing.
(Wearing Ann Landers Hat for the moment)
Shalom,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #235,821
11/24/05 1:31:57 AM
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If you're right, and I wouldn't be surprised ...
As soon as a woman does something just to see what my reaction is, the reaction is, "Buh-bye." If you want to know what I think, ask me.
Well, back when I was still saying "hello" and "buh-bye" to women.
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Post #235,844
11/24/05 9:02:38 AM
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Oh please
Based on his description of her combined with his limited recent fun, that's just plain stupid.
Unless he's the fragile heart type.
Well, Silv, can you accept that she might be fun for a couple of weeks and then you will lose her?
Think about it.
You've gone on a couple of dates, are you possessive and smothering already?
Well, then she's probably testing to see if you are about to lock her in a box.
Drook: If you really say bye-bye on the 1st hint of behaviour to draw out a reaction, you'd be living alone in a cave. You simply haven't been observant enough, and took things on face values, while the people around you manipulated you with ease.
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Post #235,852
11/24/05 9:34:20 AM
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Remember, he knows ex-strippers. He's not imagining things.
Some people don't change.
I had a friend who had a gorgeous, fun, intelligent girlfriend. He met her at a party. She was one of those girls who grabs your attention and won't let go. She was dating someone at the time, but was flirting with him and he eventually won her over.
They dated for a couple of years, I think, and they got engaged. They were a great couple, but she continued to have an overly flirty personality. Everyone lit up when she was around, but she always made me nervous because she was too friendly and too flirty and too direct in her glances.
They eventually broke up. You see, she couldn't restrict herself to a monogamous relationship.
All the signs were there from the beginning, and he had many good times with her, but their relationship was doomed because their expectations didn't match. She wasn't willing to give up having sex with other people and he wasn't willing to share her even though he loved her dearly.
He was devastated.
I think Silverlock sees what's coming and sees that it'll end in tears. I don't think that his view is off-base. I don't think I could enjoy a couple of weeks of "fun" with someone like that either. I don't think it's a "fragile heart" situation either - it's learning from previous experience. It's like [link|http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0060539097/102-9949840-2206504?v=glance&n=283155&v=glance|watching a train wreck in slow motion]. :-(
My $0.02.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #235,933
11/24/05 7:24:02 PM
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Re: Remember, he knows ex-strippers.
Book's a good illustration of just how up-for-grabs has become the 'mating' game, in the post-literate culture(s). (But... we are Always 'imagining things'; that won't ever go away - unless you convert to Repo-ism, that is.)
Not only are the myths up for grabs, but the gap 'twixt social conditioning; the forced acceleration of folkways, mores to try to match the explosion of technos like cel-fones + 24/7 with a i-Whatever plugged into one's anatomy: guarantees befuddlement for all but the Prime manipulators amongst us.
Our current Leadership reflects Our Culture - what do we think That means?
(All of which are my reasons for attempting never to give 1:1 'advice' on what-you-Should-do, on This Topic, even to those of long acquaintance.. maybe especially those?)
A failure of our System (beyond the horrifying Albatross of our Puritan roots, of course) is that we never really Explain.. to little boys the Fact (from all my experience, anyway) that little girls start out with the jelloware for social interactions (whether limned by "left/right brain" or otherwise) -- vastly better organized, from scratch.
And from ~ age 9 up, the gap appears only to widen, with all that preliminary experimentation. Toss in such ideas as monogamy, the necessity of a social fa\ufffdade, especially! in a society whose God is $$ and Marketing/lying to Get More of those:
What did we Expect?
So.. luck to all, getting through the premeditated amidst the utterly unconscious role-playing because, Guess What: there are NO infallible er algorithms for Liff choices :-)
(As everyone from Ovid to the Bard have been tryin ta Tell us..)
Gentlemen, Start Your Injuns
(insert Lying Blackfoot or .?. Truthful Whitefoot Sufiesque story)
Rent Charade, to hear Cary Grant tell it to Audrey, in words from a less frantic era. ;-)
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Post #235,801
11/23/05 11:04:28 PM
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Hell no!
This is a 1 in a million woman, someone you can take to strip clubs!!!!!!
She's testing you, to see if you are the jealous type.
Keep her, enjoy her, and see where it goes.
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Post #235,815
11/24/05 12:30:49 AM
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might go into management :-)
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #235,803
11/23/05 11:08:56 PM
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So, I think it's safe to say there are two POVs on this one
One groups says no, the other says yes. The question you have to ask yourself is how much fun can I handle?
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Post #235,829
11/24/05 2:02:14 AM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #235828 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=235828|ICLRPD]
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #235,833
11/24/05 3:49:10 AM
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Don't, just yet - first, try to find out if she's angling...
...for a response from you along the lines of "Hmm, yeah, well, I wouldn't know about that -- I think you should give me a demo first, so I can make up my mind as to whether I agree, and what advice I should possibly give you."
If she's just an enthusiastic amateur without any professional experience, then she would obviously have to practice first. A lot. With a sympathetic audience of one, to critique and advise her...
A certain Tina Turner (IIRC) hit comes to mind.
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105|Mr. Hat]
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Post #235,845
11/24/05 9:04:29 AM
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Don't forget to tune the state specific lap-dances.
After all, touching is allowed in some, not others.
Setup a chart, and practice for each.
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Post #235,855
11/24/05 10:06:25 AM
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Oh, I'm sorry.
Cocoons. I know all about those.
As for the rest of you stripper-obsessed boneheads, wanting to live your fantasies out through Don, leave him alone. Last I checked, ya'll werent in his relationship.
Go out and find your own stripper if you want one so bad.
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,858
11/24/05 10:23:42 AM
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Can't. Married.
He's not.
And he's a big boy.
He'll choose whatever he wants.
We are merely observing and possibly showing options he may not have noticed.
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Post #235,860
11/24/05 10:27:30 AM
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Nah, you just want to nail a stripper.
Follow your MOUSE
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Post #235,867
11/24/05 10:42:44 AM
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Been there, done that.
While I may have certain regrets, the overall experience is one I'll cherish to my old age.
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Post #235,900
11/24/05 3:53:28 PM
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Who the Heck are you to call Barry a liar?!? (new thread)
Created as new thread #235899 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=235899|Who the Heck are you to call Barry a liar?!?]
[link|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode|Christian R. Conrad]
(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
Yes Mr. Garrison, genetic engineering lets us correct God's horrible, horrible mistakes, like German people. - [link|http://maxpages.com/southpark2k/Episode_105|Mr. Hat]
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Post #235,916
11/24/05 6:10:55 PM
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/me raises hand
I was merely suggesting that "DreamGirl" was pushing Don's buttons for a certain response and on more that one occasion, she kept getting the overprotective response of "I've known strippers, it's not a good life, yada yada yada..." From my perspective, she knows that strikes a nerve with Don and for some reason likes to keep hammering that point. Since they have only been out a couple of times, it is not Don's place to tell her what she should or should not do. I think she is playing head games.
So, Don has many choices. 1)He can completely stop seeing her. 2)He can continue to see her and continue to play this head game. 3) He can continue to see her but call her on her continual discussion of that subject (direct confrontation) And finally, 4) Continue to see her, but be more subtle when it comes to that subject (redirect the conversation or deflect all responsibility to her).
Don, considering that you have feelings for her, I don't want to see you throw the baby out with the bath water. Don't be afraid to face the real issue. I think she is worried about being controlled. It is so early in your relationship that this episode can be a learning experience for you both. Don't be afraid to risk a little. You might be surprised at the result.
Good luck and think positive.
Hugs,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #236,330
11/28/05 4:45:01 PM
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I'm not going to lose a friend over this.
Her thinking on the whole stripper angle, as she explained it, is something like; I keep getting treated as if my good looks are the only good quality I have. Promotions at work etc. go to the guys. If my looks are getting in the way at my chosen profession, maybe I should get a stripper job where they *won't* get in the way. Once I can make enough money, I'll move to LA where my looks won't get in the way and I can go back to being an architect.
I don't think this is good. I've told her that. She doesn't agree. Nuff said. We'll stay drinking buddies and she has a shoulder to cry on when she needs it but I'm taking any romance off the table.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #236,335
11/28/05 5:01:02 PM
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Huh?
I'll move to LA where my looks won't get in the way
Don't the guys in LA look at women?
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #236,340
11/28/05 5:12:25 PM
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She might get lost in the crowd
There is a high density of attractive women out here. A large fraction think they are actresses.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #236,351
11/28/05 7:13:45 PM
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/me bows humbly and exits stage left
guess that's why they didn't ask me to take over Ann and Abby. :-)
She has some seriously flawed logic going on there, but you told her that and wouldn't listen.
I have been in that position before. I gave the best advice in the world, but it went in one ear and out the other. It's very frustrating when someone won't listen. I had to step back from the situation and I totally respect your decision to do the same.
I know that if I ever need some good advice, I can ask you. (Especially if I ever think of becoming a stripper ;-)
Hugs and peace,
Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #236,420
11/29/05 11:04:33 AM
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Naw, You didn't take over for Ann & abby, cuz...
1) you don't live in Chicago and
2) You're not twins.
(Now there's a scary thought...twin quirks!)
jb4
shrub●bish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #236,430
11/29/05 12:05:35 PM
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Would that make them quarks?
Don't think "top/bottom" ... don't think "top/bottom" ...
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Post #236,456
11/29/05 4:00:25 PM
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Squirks?
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Post #236,506
11/29/05 11:39:05 PM
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ROFLMAO!
Although some believe I do have an "evil twin" ;-)
Peace - Peace
Amy - Amy
"It's never too late to be who you might have been." ~ George Eliot
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Post #236,513
11/30/05 1:30:47 AM
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Some? Only those who know you.
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #236,362
11/28/05 10:15:49 PM
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Architect?
A real one?
Buildings and such?
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Post #236,409
11/29/05 9:17:06 AM
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Yep. Still needs final certfication.
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Post #236,488
11/29/05 7:51:50 PM
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How far out is it?
And do you work with her closely, ie: do you see examples of people less qualified than her being promoted / given breaks, that she doesn't?
Because I have seen the opposite, up to a point. Really good looking women being given many opportunities that the average guy would not, even in the event of repeated screwups. It makes sense, from a horny guy perpective wanting them around. But eventually they Peter principle out, while having incredible expectations of how much more they "deserve". Which in turn leads to some serious bitterness and delusions of competentcy.
So I was wondering if you have 1st hand evidence of this treatment and what your judgement of it is.
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Post #236,492
11/29/05 9:57:01 PM
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Can't help you on that
All I know about her job is what she tells me. I've never visited her place of business. Neither, as far as I know, has she mine.
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No new taxes.
--George H. W. Bush
We don't torture.
--George W. Bush
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Post #236,503
11/29/05 11:27:57 PM
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Hmmmm
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Post #235,952
11/24/05 10:04:15 PM
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One possibility that nobody's mentioned...
She might not be trying to hit your buttons. She might be trying to find a way to get you to accept that she already makes money on the side from stripping. If you can't handle that in her, then the relationship isn't going to go very far.
That would explain why she keeps on bringing it up.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #235,953
11/24/05 10:10:08 PM
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good point.. give her a dollar and see where she puts it
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Post #236,318
11/28/05 2:04:25 PM
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Sprite through the nose!
bcnu,
Mikem
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Post #236,319
11/28/05 2:06:49 PM
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Nah, she wouldn't put it there.
I'll get my coat.
Peter
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Post #236,016
11/25/05 6:14:11 PM
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:-((
jb4
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Post #235,388
11/21/05 6:12:17 PM
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OTOH - no pix, duude..
What was that about pissing in a swimming pool?
Besides, imagination always beats 'reality'
er, Break a Leg, y'hear?
'Cause it's ALL Show Biz; alas
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Post #235,770
11/23/05 8:10:58 PM
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And having is never the pleasure of wanting.
bcnu,
Mikem
It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell
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