Remember those nukes? Hot new plans afoot -

Post #224,365 by Ashton 9/12/05 5:40:52 AM 9/12/05 5:43:03 AM Reply	Remember those nukes? Hot new plans afoot - [link\|http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/index.html?blog=/politics/war_room/2005/09/11/nuclear/index.html\| Salon]. Just nuke it Walter Pincus of The Washington Post reported today that the Pentagon is [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/10/AR2005091001053.html\| seeking approval] for a new strategy in which nuclear weapons could be used preemptively against terrorists or rogue states planning a WMD attack against the United States. The plan is under review and has yet to receive final approval from Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld. If approved, it would allow military commanders to ask the president for permission to use nuclear weapons in certain non-relatiatory circumstances. Given the president's response to Hurricane Katrina, which considered alongside the war in Iraq creates a picture of executive incompetence, does the idea of President Bush being able to fire nuclear weapons at nations that haven't attacked us strike anyone as just a little crazy? -- Aaron Kinney Surrealer and surrealer. And right on schedule. Mine, anyway. Edited by Ashton Sept. 12, 2005, 05:43:03 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #224,371 by boxley 9/12/05 9:12:50 AM Reply	not stated is Bush asked these plans to be drawn up in 2002 "the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #224,373 by dmcarls 9/12/05 9:30:48 AM Reply	Do unto others ...strategy in which nuclear weapons could be used preemptively against (insert offenders name)... "And if life belongs only to the strong, Alfie, what will you lend on an old golden rule? " WTF has happened to us?
Post #224,377 by mmoffitt 9/12/05 9:50:38 AM 9/12/05 12:57:06 PM Reply	Well, thank $DEITY that some one... as level headed as Herr Rumsfeld will be giving the "final approval" for this millenium's "Final Solution." [Edit: sp] bcnu, Mikem It would seem, therefore, that the three human impulses embodied in religion are fear, conceit, and hatred. The purpose of religion, one might say, is to give an air of respectibility to these passions. -- Bertrand Russell Edited by mmoffitt Sept. 12, 2005, 12:57:06 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #224,398 by GBert 9/12/05 10:40:07 AM Reply	The hidden engine driving this administration The less competently it performs, the more compelling are its demands for ever more power; the more power it has, the more effectively it can hide the reasons for its incompetence. Lather, rinse, repeat. It's a runaway greenhorn effect. I now suspect that if IT as a whole had substantially f*cked up the Y2K conversion, the high tech slump would never have happened, and CIOs would be commanding bigger benefit packages than CEOs. Giovanni Have whatever values you have. That's what America is for. You don't need George Bush for that.
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Post #224,447 by Ashton 9/12/05 4:28:25 PM Reply	I blame the Insurance-mentality (Perspicuous deduction there! pity there were so few.. Neoconmen-agitprop Pros amongst the Plotters/Connivers Corps of IT, eh? :( People have embraced womb-to-tomb 'protection', that snake-oil antidote to; -also aka- Gawd forbid that Anything should Happen! (But if it does: make it all well with some $$. Oh.. Yeah..) Surely as seductive a dreamscape as Heroin produces? Twice just-now, a noisy fear-besotted minority of zealots has stampeded a less-than-majority into trading-away in. just. a. few. years! most every significant provision of the Constitution, for: that very same base illusion of 'security'. Conclusion: Muricans will choose Secure; however moribund -over- Less-secure but authentically Alive. This mindset dovetails perfectly with the Puritan religio-meme: I'll try to evade Gawd's penchant for instant or premeditated-Vengeance by eschewing most bodily entertainments or adventurous emotional experience (while nominally..."alive"): - in exchange for - a guaranteed eternity of inert Admiration-of-Him\ufffd. -or- Death-worship Culture R'Us cha.. cha.. cha..

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