Post #222,256
9/1/05 3:26:08 PM
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Reflections on the flood
Think for a minute about the New Orleans flood and huricane Katrina. Many stand to gain from it, especially economically by building new Gulf ports,(Galveston, etc...), new refineries and rebuilding the city and on and on. But this is just human talk...in the swamps the benefits are already there - it's supper time. The American aligator is heavy and lies low to the ground. 150 mph winds are meaningless to him except for a little excitement in the swamp. After the flood, food comes to him in abundance and all his neighbors too...
He's been around for millions of years. Luck?
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #222,264
9/1/05 3:55:34 PM
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As ben would say...
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=221620|It's all a question of sympathizing with the right animal].
Who would you rather take your chances with? The mostly predictable alligator, that is fairly efficient in it's consumption habits? Or your fellow tribesmen?
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Post #222,268
9/1/05 4:21:34 PM
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You sick sick person
Of course, I already had that exact idea and discussed it in depth with the guy I car pool with yesterday.
hehe
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Post #222,271
9/1/05 4:25:03 PM
8/21/07 6:06:32 AM
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Others are reflecting too
claiming its retribution from God for homosexuality and such.
[link|http://www.repentamerica.com/pr_hurricanekatrina.html|http://www.repentame...icanekatrina.html]
"Although the loss of lives is deeply saddening, this act of God destroyed a wicked city," stated Repent America director Michael Marcavage. "From 'Girls Gone Wild' to 'Southern Decadence,' New Orleans was a city that had its doors wide open to the public celebration of sin. From the devastation may a city full of righteousness emerge," he continued.
New Orleans is also known for its Mardi Gras parties where thousands of drunken men revel in the streets to exchange plastic jewelry for drunken women to expose their breasts. This annual event sparked the creation of the "Girls Gone Wild" video series.
"We must help and pray for those ravaged by this disaster, but let us not forget that the citizens of New Orleans tolerated and welcomed the wickedness in their city for so long," Marcavage said. "May this act of God cause us all to think about what we tolerate in our city limits, and bring us trembling before the throne of Almighty God," Marcavage concluded.
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God is love, yeah right.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #222,275
9/1/05 4:43:21 PM
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God is. Marcavage isn't, obviously.
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #222,279
9/1/05 4:45:36 PM
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Yeah, I'm sure the radical Muslims will have a field day
on this too... Allah's wrath against the infidel... oil... yadayada yada.
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #222,280
9/1/05 4:48:04 PM
8/21/07 6:06:43 AM
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He's just workin the field
he already smacked a whole bunch of muslims with that big wave a while back.
"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #222,285
9/1/05 5:05:00 PM
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Morons
"God" must be really busy for "him/her/it/they" to finally get around to destroying the city after 34 years of that celebration. Better late than never I suppose. Morons.
So I suppose "The Big One" will soon hit the west coast and only San Fran will slide off the continent. I wonder what "God" has in store for Toronto what with our gay pride parade, legalized same sex marriages, Sunday shopping, lax mj attitude...
And I think this goes to prove just how much more of a slacker this "God" thing is anyways. Talk about a weak-kneed smiting job! What's with taking the hurricane down a category and shifting it a bit to the east? How about some vengeance?! How about a big flashy show?! Some shock and awe! Something to give the public the "Wow! That guy must be bleeping pissed!" reaction and grovel for forgiveness.
I personally would be most impressed to see "God" fold the city in on itself repeatedly until it was infinitely small and "POP!" out of existence. Now there's some good television!
Gah, fucking religious nutjobs!
lister
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Post #222,286
9/1/05 5:06:55 PM
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well we wouldnt miss toronto as much :-)
what is untoward and unspoken by this crank its really the race mixing and catholics in New Orleans more than the gays.
thanx,
bill
"the reason people don't buy conspiracy theories is that they think conspiracy means everyone is on the same program. Thats not how it works. Everybody has a different program. They just all want the same guy dead. Socrates was a gadfly, but I bet he took time out to screw somebodies wife" Gus Vitelli
Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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Post #222,293
9/1/05 5:25:39 PM
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I wondered about that
Wondered when the crazy religious freaks would come out and start chanting it was God's punishment.
God said there would be floods and famines, fires and earthquakes, (not quoting this exactly because I don't like Revelation), and nation would turn against nation... this is nothing new, it was always coming...
But even I, as a Christian, cannot condone those who say it was God's punishment of a sinful city. For me, God is a merciful God, a loving God... who allows things to happen, yes, and why, we may never know. But bottom line for me is that NO ONE DESERVED TO BE DESTROYED IN SUCH A FASHION and those religious freaks who are chanting all that balderdash... well they know where they can go straight to.
Brenda
"Excel is to math what a Microwave Oven is to cooking!"
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Post #222,337
9/1/05 6:54:31 PM
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Saw a bumber sticker the other day . . .
"It's your Hell
You burn in it"
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #222,359
9/1/05 8:32:55 PM
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Hehehe. I like that one. :-D
lister
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Post #222,310
9/1/05 6:01:17 PM
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Luck, you ask? No, Intelligent Design!
With the design being natural selection.
(Blasphemer!)
jb4
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Post #222,340
9/1/05 7:01:25 PM
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Natural selection
Mutation and natural selection have slowly evolved a species of reptile till it's well adapted to swamps. It's luck and time combined with a natural law of the Universe.
Whereas mankind can adapt to all but the most inhospitable environments and even change those environments for its purpose. It's brains, language and opposable thumbs. And in such short time and effect that the survivability of other species is determined by human activity as much as environment.
Admire the alligator? You have the wrong forum. The joke forum is over there.
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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Post #222,375
9/1/05 10:00:52 PM
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And what of the survivability of humankind?
Are you so sure intelligence is a desirable survival trait?
How do you know that the demise of Dinosauria was not the result of, say, a species of raptor developing intelligence for example?
Dominance is not necessarily a good thng for either the dominated OR the dominating.
And - if you disagree, PROVE it.
*chuckle*
[link|http://www.runningworks.com|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #222,387
9/1/05 10:37:56 PM
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God love you...
'cause you're pissing me off. After the tsunami and now Katrina, you stick your opposable thumb right back up next to your head... Repeat after me, "we are not in control". The kind of hubrus you are displaying is what led to the levees and pumping stations in New Orleans. Your little island wouldn't last too long if there was a good tsunami or asteroid, etc.
Denial isn't just a river in Africa (that floods frequently as well).
Just a few thoughts,
Danno
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Post #222,424
9/2/05 7:45:14 AM
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Jeez, Danno -
See that trail of ants marching in ranks across the palace floor!
See the little Blue Boy laughing?
Hear the Indra asking, Why laughing?
BB: Don't ask.
I: I ask.
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BB: Former Indras all..!
{Speaking of hubris, weren't we?}
Corrupt language -- inflated imagery, stale metaphors meaningless words -- corrupts thought.
--George Orwell
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Post #222,548
9/3/05 12:44:36 AM
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Hey Ashton, speak Engrish, will you?
Maintenant, s'il vous plait, parlez vous PLAIN ENGLISH... I see you have a couple of fire ants chewing you up... I almost detect a little righteous indignation on your part (I think you're just still smarting over Roland Weary's death)? Mooohahahahahahahahaha...
As per nature and as per these fora, "we are not in control"... :-O Perhaps IWETHEY is a microcosm of all that is. Intelligence has no direct correlation to survivability. Case closed... so it goes...
Now, you were saying something?
Just a few (Trafalmadorian) thoughts,
Danno
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Post #222,551
9/3/05 2:42:47 AM
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So what are ya.. a Control Freak?
Think yer febrile tiny mind could sort through the (n+\ufffd)-dimensional save-face-space, twist a few interstices and an aureola or two -- better than Madame Chance with the no-dice cup?
As to poor Roland.. hey! he'd have gotten a better deal in the non-Engrish genuflecting world: at least 17 virgins, a gold-plated supercharged Hum-Vee and a casino where every play was a Winner (+ a mansion to store the swag in).
('Course ol Roland would trade it all in, just to shake hands with Manet or Monet or maybe Wolfgang..) He didn't strike me as fodder for a crass Con$umer-grade Kismet. Y'know?
Stay dry
..or I'll hafta rat ya out to yer Parole Officer. Again.
Om Mane Padme Hom y'all
(Ich spreche kein Englisch, Kapitalistschweine; Ich habe meine eigene Sprache.)
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Post #222,515
9/2/05 5:12:46 PM
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Better hubris than fatalism
Better to ask what can be changed than hope that a solution may arise. Better to rethink an acceptable level of cost and risk than to envy other people (or reptiles). Better to face death and say "It was fun while it lasted." than to constantly worry.
Yes, the weather or the Nile can't be controlled but that never stopped the ancient Egyptians vacating then remeasuring their farmland. A rethink of defences, contingency plans and acceptable risk may be needed.
I thought I was the morbid, 'glass half empty' person around here.
Matthew Greet
Choose Life. Choose a job. Choose a career. Choose a family. Choose a fucking big television, choose washing machines, cars, compact disc players and electrical tin openers. Choose good health, low cholesterol, and dental insurance. Choose fixed interest mortgage repayments. Choose a starter home. Choose your friends. Choose leisurewear and matching luggage. Choose DIY and wondering who the fuck you are on a Sunday morning. Choose sitting on that couch watching mind-numbing, spirit-crushing game shows, stuffing fucking junk food into your mouth. Choose rotting away at the end of it all, pishing your last in a miserable home, nothing more than an embarrassment to the selfish, fucked up brats you spawned to replace yourself. Choose your future. Choose life... But why would I want to do a thing like that? I chose not to choose life. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons? There are no reasons. Who needs reasons when you've got heroin?
- Mark Renton, Trainspotting.
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