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Post #219,203 by pwhysall 8/13/05 8:30:07 PM Reply	Drink does that quite effectively. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #219,279 by ben_tilly 8/14/05 11:16:28 PM Reply	Andrew is right though Drink impairs you. But it takes a lot of drink to match the impairment of being on your cellphone. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #219,311 by pwhysall 8/15/05 2:04:46 AM Reply	You can stop being on your phone much quicker... ..than you can sober up. That's not to say that you should yammer on your phone whilst driving; the twin factors of concentrating on a phone conversation and only having one hand available make it a risky proposition. I get round this by having my passenger answer my phone, or by turning it off if I'm driving alone. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #219,313 by ben_tilly 8/15/05 2:09:39 AM Reply	Only one hand available is irrelevant Research suggests that handfree headsets are as bad as traditional cell phones. The distraction is the issue. In particular distraction that pays no attention to what is happening in the car. Humans in the car naturally modulate their conversation in deference to driving conditions. Humans on the phone, don't. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

DUI law successfully challenged in Virginia. - (Another Scott) - (68) - Aug. 13, 2005, 10:36:27 AM EDT

It really boils down to how they define "intoxicated" - (bionerd) - (15) - Aug. 13, 2005, 11:58:23 AM EDT

Yup. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 13, 2005, 12:18:48 PM EDT

intoxicated does not equal impaired - (boxley) - (7) - Aug. 13, 2005, 12:21:30 PM EDT

Good idea, but time would be the issue. - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Aug. 13, 2005, 01:41:37 PM EDT

you missed "make an appointment" - (boxley) - (4) - Aug. 13, 2005, 03:53:42 PM EDT

{chortle} too sane for US Law. -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 13, 2005, 05:54:06 PM EDT

+5 cogent! But I agree, too sane for US -NT - (jb4) - Aug. 15, 2005, 10:04:43 AM EDT

Okay, but how do you replicate the situation entirely? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 10:21:15 AM EDT

speaking as an expert :-) - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2005, 10:45:27 AM EDT

Video games to the rescue! - (imqwerky) - Aug. 13, 2005, 06:15:47 PM EDT

The only sensible measure... - (pwhysall) - (5) - Aug. 13, 2005, 02:28:08 PM EDT

Yes, but it takes quite a lot to impair your driving . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Aug. 13, 2005, 03:32:57 PM EDT

Drink does that quite effectively. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Aug. 13, 2005, 08:30:07 PM EDT

Andrew is right though - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 14, 2005, 11:16:28 PM EDT

You can stop being on your phone much quicker... - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:04:46 AM EDT

Only one hand available is irrelevant - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:09:39 AM EDT

Classic 'IQ' conundrum, as mauled always by Bean Counters - (Ashton) - Aug. 13, 2005, 05:24:22 PM EDT

I go back and forth on this one. - (JayMehaffey) - (48) - Aug. 13, 2005, 05:27:21 PM EDT

how about the fellow whose BAC was above 2 - (boxley) - (45) - Aug. 13, 2005, 05:37:25 PM EDT

Something's wrong with those numbers. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 13, 2005, 06:09:07 PM EDT

yes I meant .20-.25, thanks for the correction -NT - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 13, 2005, 06:20:45 PM EDT

Anytime. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 13, 2005, 06:56:22 PM EDT

well here is a partial - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 13, 2005, 07:27:27 PM EDT

! -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 13, 2005, 07:52:49 PM EDT

Target a resonable part of the population - (JayMehaffey) - (39) - Aug. 13, 2005, 06:54:01 PM EDT

your last sentence applies to totally sober drivers as well -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 13, 2005, 08:58:29 PM EDT

impaired driving should be a crime with stiff sentences - (boxley) - Aug. 13, 2005, 09:01:14 PM EDT

Every single driver on this planet... - (pwhysall) - (36) - Aug. 13, 2005, 09:07:09 PM EDT

After taking cough syrup? - (Yendor) - (3) - Aug. 14, 2005, 10:38:24 PM EDT

Alcohol-free mouthwash for me... - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:49:12 AM EDT

Ironic... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:07:37 AM EDT

I don't. - (pwhysall) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:55:07 AM EDT

Why stop at alcohol? - (Another Scott) - (30) - Aug. 14, 2005, 11:05:55 PM EDT

The thing with phones and conversations... - (pwhysall) - (29) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:59:11 AM EDT

If you need to pay that much attention... - (ben_tilly) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:27:24 AM EDT

Re: If you need to pay that much attention... - (pwhysall) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:54:20 AM EDT

You'd hate LA freeways - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:17:04 AM EDT

Sounds like the M25 at 5PM - (pwhysall) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:25:03 AM EDT

It's like that all day here - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:10:19 PM EDT

Peter, you ignorant slut - - (Ashton) - (23) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:34:32 AM EDT

Re: Peter, you ignorant slut - - (pwhysall) - (22) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:55:39 PM EDT

I could get my 82 4cyl mustang to 125, you should be able - (boxley) - (21) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:17:53 PM EDT

I don't think so. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:28:40 PM EDT

go to mapquest and lookup driving directions from - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:21:30 PM EDT

You still haven't said whether the car was stock. - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:51:19 PM EDT

5 speed manual transmission all stock - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:57:05 PM EDT

Dunno about the lifters. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 16, 2005, 10:30:54 AM EDT

If I ever get my dream car... - (pwhysall) - (14) - Aug. 15, 2005, 02:35:14 PM EDT

Anything..except any motorcycle -NT - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Aug. 15, 2005, 05:31:57 PM EDT

Re: Anything..except any motorcycle - (pwhysall) - (4) - Aug. 15, 2005, 05:39:27 PM EDT

'thetruthaboutcars.com' - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2005, 09:48:03 PM EDT

Re: 'thetruthaboutcars.com' - (admin) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 11:53:43 PM EDT

Re: 'thetruthaboutcars.com' - (pwhysall) - Aug. 16, 2005, 01:23:26 AM EDT

Oh, and *drool* -NT - (pwhysall) - Aug. 16, 2005, 01:30:35 AM EDT

The new M5 is truly terrifying, though - (pwhysall) - Aug. 15, 2005, 05:40:30 PM EDT

I picture you in this... (11 kB .img) - (Another Scott) - (6) - Aug. 15, 2005, 05:55:30 PM EDT

Can't think of anything worse. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:09:30 PM EDT

:-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:16:59 PM EDT

The crossfire is butt ugly settle for one of these (SFW) - (boxley) - (3) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:19:03 PM EDT

French, lovely car, hydraulic nightmare. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:20:18 PM EDT

maybe now, but back then not a problem -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2005, 06:46:52 PM EDT

Watch it, Buster - I've driven one - (Ashton) - Aug. 15, 2005, 10:29:10 PM EDT

To quote my uncle Lou . . . . - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 15, 2005, 03:09:02 PM EDT

I think you need to fine-tune your objection. - (static) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:20:14 AM EDT

The charge is NOT drunk driving - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:11:56 PM EDT

try driving while impaired - (boxley) - Aug. 15, 2005, 07:59:45 AM EDT

It would be an Irishman who made the decision... -NT - (inthane-chan) - Aug. 15, 2005, 11:15:32 AM EDT

Reminds me of WKRP - Johnny Fever & Venus gets drunk on air - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 15, 2005, 01:47:43 PM EDT

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