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New {chortle}
Gawd.. Six Degrees ==> Someone here! has been around ShrubRove, somewhere somehow :(

{icky}

Cyclotron pretty long-tooth by my tenure; not useful for the project mentioned:

The Bevatron was a circle-with-straight-sections; 50' radius of the arcs, for perspective. Don't recall encountering the above folk, but Nobelists (and their groups, grad-students doing most of the work, natch) were as thick as Repos at a merger in the Caymans, chaired by ol' Chain-saw whatsisname.

The Super-Hilac produced many (most?) of the Trans-Uranic additions to the Periodic Chart (Thanks! Mendeleev) - many with Al Ghiorso's name on them. (Got a Roosian note from him at the time of Apollo-Soyuz linkup / with new Rooski stamp First-Day Cover! commemorating that event.)

Hooking the two together (ie using the heavy-ion capabilities of the HILAC as 'injector' for the 2.2 GeV/c Bevatron) became both thinkable and techno- practical in early '70s, despite their physical separation (including significant elevation! differences).

PDPs were arriving, to accommodate the pulsing of (beam optics) quadrupole fields, with requisite accuracy. Then too, the first synchrotron guide field ever to be minicomputer controlled - was the Bevatron, via PDP-8 (Thanks! Don Evans et al).

Put 'em together and create YAN acronym: the Bevalac.
(One MAD Party when the first beam made it all the way to full energy! - Glenn Seaborg + cast of hundreds vas dere: I too - in my mess-dress ex-AF uniform + Mad Hatter hat.) Got a great pic, too...

Fun stuff (and for moi, Trebly-so, for there being no marketing ergo lying, nor a 'product' to sell). I Love wissenschaffts; the antithesis of bizness fuckwittery.
As Sigourney said so eloquently, Lucky.. lucky.. lucky..




Physics Lives
homo-sap annihilates, at the drop-of-a-hat
New Thanks. Is this your old haunting ground?
[link|http://maps.google.com/maps?q=lawrence+berkeley+laboratory,+berkeley+california&ll=37.876979,-122.250034&spn=0.003677,0.007135&t=h&num=10&start=0&hl=en|Google Maps]. The one with the brown roof (upper left) or the one with the, um, nipple, on the lower right?

I think Joe also did some work at SLAC, but I haven't been able to document that yet. I've little doubt that it was all before your time - he went East in the '50s.

Cheers,
Scott.
New {snerfl}
WOW! - damn near down to the {ghost of my} Citro\ufffdn in the tiny parking lot.
Amazing the techno- which we now {yawn} not-even-Notice, what with instant satiation. Jaded, We (when not being insufferable, too).

Eerie ... those road names
and to know the bodies that go with them all.
('Course I'ze got a whole town: Ashton-under-Lyne IIRC ;-)

Yup, brown roof er Brown-roof :-0
Grand Vista of entire SF Bay Area, 3 bridges - from atop that roof!
(Where there were vents for stuff like Liq. Hydrogen targets n'such)
Would occasionally have the Shrammsberg and a goodie-basket from Narsai's *** up there. Once with SO. Lovely..

But it's dead, Jim.
Bevatron bought It (or rather - could no longer pay-for It) in '93.
No more Medical Cave for heavy-ion irradiation of tumored-folk: of the unique precision whereby [Bragg Peak] one could peel an orange, without harming either the inner pulp or the outer skin.

Priorities. You could build a new brewery or stadium for ..

Thanks for the mammary (Oh - that tit-thingie appears to be atop the 88" cyclotron)
Maybe - by now - a surveillance camera kiosk for Fatherland Security?
- 88" a much later, cleverer machine than the hoary First Big 'accelerator': the 184" Cyclotron. Not sure even, if that building still stands.

Ernest Orlando Lawrence pretty much started the rush
(with acolyte Livingston et al spreading physics-fever even to the Rust Belt) etc.

[There's yer one-line history of particle accelerators in the world]

New ad some hair to this picture, slim down the jawline
[link|http://photos.olson-systems.com/displayimage.php?album=14&pos=0|http://photos.olson-...hp?album=14&pos=0]
gentleman in question actually assisted in building the first livermore computer,
thanx,
bill
Just call me Mr. Lynch \\

Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep
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     Airplanes and dateless nights - (bionerd) - (73)
         Sure it would - (drewk) - (4)
             Or short the stupid fly-by-wire crap. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                 if airbus does the same testing as we do - (boxley) - (1)
                     Oops, forgot the <sarcasm> - (mmoffitt)
             Yeah, but they dont think that is what happened here. - (bionerd)
         Nit. Airbus is not exclusively French. - (mmoffitt) - (67)
             I know - (bionerd) - (1)
                 Forgot something. - (mmoffitt)
             This one was... it was Air France -NT - (jake123) - (64)
                 Air France Concord - (bionerd) - (63)
                     Please madame, it is Concorde! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (62)
                         Potato/Potatoe - (bionerd) - (61)
                             "BA flew to NY in 2 hours 34 minutes and all I got ..." :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                             Feh. The Shuttle does it a lot faster. - (mmoffitt) - (48)
                                 I certainly try to avoid landing in aircraft of any kind -NT - (tuberculosis) - (47)
                                     No accounting for taste, I guess. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (46)
                                         Look what happened to that "perfectly good airplane" -NT - (tuberculosis) - (45)
                                             Who said it was "perfectly good"? It was FBW donchaknow. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (44)
                                                 Is that really so much less reliable than FBM? - (tuberculosis) - (43)
                                                     Um, it would have been nice to FBM on these. - (mmoffitt) - (42)
                                                         What the intent behind FBW? - (admin) - (41)
                                                             A few things - (tuberculosis) - (15)
                                                                 Interesting. - (admin)
                                                                 Problem is digital failure is ... well, digital - (drewk)
                                                                 When it's accepted on automobiles, I'll be a believer. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
                                                                 United 232 - (bionerd) - (11)
                                                                     Probably not. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                         Re: Probably not. - (pwhysall)
                                                                     Re: Do regular people think about these things? - (a6l6e6x)
                                                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly)
                                                                     Regular? - (Ashton) - (5)
                                                                         I recently found out that my FIL worked out there. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                                                                             {chortle} - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                                                 Thanks. Is this your old haunting ground? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                                                                                     {snerfl} - (Ashton) - (1)
                                                                                         ad some hair to this picture, slim down the jawline - (boxley)
                                                                     not as much fun as picturing ground zero nuclear - (boxley)
                                                             Doesn't FBW mean - (imqwerky) - (4)
                                                                 FBW == Fly By Wire. HTH! -NT - (jb4) - (3)
                                                                     I know... :-D - (imqwerky) - (2)
                                                                         Let's examine the entrails a little more. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                                                             I stand, er, sit corrected! :-P -NT - (imqwerky)
                                                             It's mostly a philosophical thing with me. </smirk> - (mmoffitt) - (19)
                                                                 I think this argues for better FBW actually - (tuberculosis) - (18)
                                                                     I agree. - (Another Scott)
                                                                     Say what? - (mmoffitt) - (16)
                                                                         What "trained pilot"? - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                             Doh! </me slaps self on forehead> - (mmoffitt)
                                                                         My guess - (tuberculosis) - (13)
                                                                             in an f16 turn off the computer - (boxley) - (1)
                                                                                 You're so much more succinct that I am. - (tuberculosis)
                                                                             Then why do Boeing FBW aircraft *all* have "off" switches? - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                                                                                 Probably the pilots demanded them. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4)
                                                                                     I always like this one. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                                                         But at Mach 3, you'll get found REAL fast.... - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                                             Or 3 states away from where you're supposed to be. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                                     As goes chess ---> so goes 'piloting'___[???] (new thread) - (Ashton)
                                                                                 IIRC, depends on aircraft design - (tonytib) - (4)
                                                                                     Actually, it won't be the USAF/USN that are the first to... - (CRConrad) - (3)
                                                                                         Guess the F117 doesn't count? -NT - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                                             Which first flew in 1977. -NT - (pwhysall)
                                                                                             Live and learn. I only knew it was butt-ugly. ;-) -NT - (CRConrad)
                             Very possible to have lunch - (bepatient) - (10)
                                 OT: Hey Beep. - (mmoffitt) - (6)
                                     Re: OT: Hey Beep. - (bepatient) - (5)
                                         K. Thanks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                             Got any links? Will follow up. -NT - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                 Here's a couple. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                     I know there's support for this - (bepatient) - (1)
                                                         I don't think its that far off. - (mmoffitt)
                                 Do tell! - (rcareaga) - (2)
                                     Dunno about him, but a girl I worked with did it this way. - (mmoffitt)
                                     Biz trip - (bepatient)

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