Airplanes and dateless nights - (bionerd) - (73) - Aug. 3, 2005, 10:48:43 AM EDT
         Sure it would - (drewk) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:08:47 AM EDT
             Or short the stupid fly-by-wire crap. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:14:04 AM EDT
                 if airbus does the same testing as we do - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:45:31 AM EDT
                     Oops, forgot the <sarcasm> - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:48:14 AM EDT
             Yeah, but they dont think that is what happened here. - (bionerd) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:21:02 AM EDT
         Nit. Airbus is not exclusively French. - (mmoffitt) - (67) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:13:52 AM EDT
             I know - (bionerd) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:17:07 AM EDT
                 Forgot something. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:34:37 AM EDT
             This one was... it was Air France -NT - (jake123) - (64) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:17:53 AM EDT
                 Air France Concord - (bionerd) - (63) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:29:39 AM EDT
                     Please madame, it is Concorde! :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - (62) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:37:22 AM EDT
                         Potato/Potatoe - (bionerd) - (61) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:51:17 AM EDT
                             "BA flew to NY in 2 hours 34 minutes and all I got ..." :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:55:25 AM EDT
                             Feh. The Shuttle does it a lot faster. - (mmoffitt) - (48) - Aug. 3, 2005, 12:08:55 PM EDT
                                 I certainly try to avoid landing in aircraft of any kind -NT - (tuberculosis) - (47) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:37:30 PM EDT
                                     No accounting for taste, I guess. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (46) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:39:15 PM EDT
                                         Look what happened to that "perfectly good airplane" -NT - (tuberculosis) - (45) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:40:46 PM EDT
                                             Who said it was "perfectly good"? It was FBW donchaknow. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (44) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:43:54 PM EDT
                                                 Is that really so much less reliable than FBM? - (tuberculosis) - (43) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:52:36 PM EDT
                                                     Um, it would have been nice to FBM on these. - (mmoffitt) - (42) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:13:38 PM EDT
                                                         What the intent behind FBW? - (admin) - (41) - Aug. 3, 2005, 06:03:48 PM EDT
                                                             A few things - (tuberculosis) - (15) - Aug. 3, 2005, 07:18:27 PM EDT
                                                                 Interesting. - (admin) - Aug. 3, 2005, 07:34:07 PM EDT
                                                                 Problem is digital failure is ... well, digital - (drewk) - Aug. 3, 2005, 07:56:51 PM EDT
                                                                 When it's accepted on automobiles, I'll be a believer. -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 3, 2005, 08:08:28 PM EDT
                                                                 United 232 - (bionerd) - (11) - Aug. 3, 2005, 08:47:10 PM EDT
                                                                     Probably not. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:04:37 PM EDT
                                                                         Re: Probably not. - (pwhysall) - Aug. 4, 2005, 01:30:36 AM EDT
                                                                     Re: Do regular people think about these things? - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:10:42 PM EDT
                                                                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Aug. 3, 2005, 09:11:32 PM EDT
                                                                     Regular? - (Ashton) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2005, 11:41:26 PM EDT
                                                                         I recently found out that my FIL worked out there. - (Another Scott) - (4) - Aug. 4, 2005, 08:19:13 AM EDT
                                                                             {chortle} - (Ashton) - (3) - Aug. 4, 2005, 01:52:05 PM EDT
                                                                                 Thanks. Is this your old haunting ground? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Aug. 4, 2005, 02:03:52 PM EDT
                                                                                     {snerfl} - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2005, 02:57:52 PM EDT
                                                                                         ad some hair to this picture, slim down the jawline - (boxley) - Aug. 4, 2005, 03:23:32 PM EDT
                                                                     not as much fun as picturing ground zero nuclear - (boxley) - Aug. 4, 2005, 07:39:24 AM EDT
                                                             Doesn't FBW mean - (imqwerky) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2005, 07:38:12 PM EDT
                                                                 FBW == Fly By Wire. HTH! -NT - (jb4) - (3) - Aug. 4, 2005, 09:30:11 AM EDT
                                                                     I know... :-D - (imqwerky) - (2) - Aug. 4, 2005, 10:46:35 AM EDT
                                                                         Let's examine the entrails a little more. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2005, 10:51:58 AM EDT
                                                                             I stand, er, sit corrected! :-P -NT - (imqwerky) - Aug. 4, 2005, 10:54:47 AM EDT
                                                             It's mostly a philosophical thing with me. </smirk> - (mmoffitt) - (19) - Aug. 4, 2005, 11:59:25 AM EDT
                                                                 I think this argues for better FBW actually - (tuberculosis) - (18) - Aug. 4, 2005, 12:36:31 PM EDT
                                                                     I agree. - (Another Scott) - Aug. 4, 2005, 01:02:37 PM EDT
                                                                     Say what? - (mmoffitt) - (16) - Aug. 4, 2005, 02:48:30 PM EDT
                                                                         What "trained pilot"? - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2005, 10:16:25 AM EDT
                                                                             Doh! </me slaps self on forehead> - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 5, 2005, 01:23:57 PM EDT
                                                                         My guess - (tuberculosis) - (13) - Aug. 5, 2005, 02:12:57 PM EDT
                                                                             in an f16 turn off the computer - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2005, 02:14:20 PM EDT
                                                                                 You're so much more succinct that I am. - (tuberculosis) - Aug. 5, 2005, 02:16:55 PM EDT
                                                                             Then why do Boeing FBW aircraft *all* have "off" switches? - (mmoffitt) - (10) - Aug. 5, 2005, 03:00:31 PM EDT
                                                                                 Probably the pilots demanded them. - (Andrew Grygus) - (4) - Aug. 5, 2005, 03:08:29 PM EDT
                                                                                     I always like this one. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 5, 2005, 03:13:16 PM EDT
                                                                                         But at Mach 3, you'll get found REAL fast.... - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 5, 2005, 04:11:17 PM EDT
                                                                                             Or 3 states away from where you're supposed to be. ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 5, 2005, 05:31:11 PM EDT
                                                                                     As goes chess ---> so goes 'piloting'___[???] (new thread) - (Ashton) - Aug. 5, 2005, 04:10:04 PM EDT
                                                                                 IIRC, depends on aircraft design - (tonytib) - (4) - Aug. 5, 2005, 05:55:34 PM EDT
                                                                                     Actually, it won't be the USAF/USN that are the first to... - (CRConrad) - (3) - Aug. 6, 2005, 06:09:45 PM EDT
                                                                                         Guess the F117 doesn't count? -NT - (drewk) - (2) - Aug. 8, 2005, 09:32:53 AM EDT
                                                                                             Which first flew in 1977. -NT - (pwhysall) - Aug. 8, 2005, 02:03:41 PM EDT
                                                                                             Live and learn. I only knew it was butt-ugly. ;-) -NT - (CRConrad) - Aug. 8, 2005, 05:59:41 PM EDT
                             Very possible to have lunch - (bepatient) - (10) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:11:30 PM EDT
                                 OT: Hey Beep. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Aug. 3, 2005, 03:35:35 PM EDT
                                     Re: OT: Hey Beep. - (bepatient) - (5) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:45:51 PM EDT
                                         K. Thanks. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:53:39 PM EDT
                                             Got any links? Will follow up. -NT - (bepatient) - (3) - Aug. 3, 2005, 06:16:02 PM EDT
                                                 Here's a couple. - (mmoffitt) - (2) - Aug. 4, 2005, 12:05:04 PM EDT
                                                     I know there's support for this - (bepatient) - (1) - Aug. 4, 2005, 03:01:19 PM EDT
                                                         I don't think its that far off. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 4, 2005, 05:13:16 PM EDT
                                 Do tell! - (rcareaga) - (2) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:10:44 PM EDT
                                     Dunno about him, but a girl I worked with did it this way. - (mmoffitt) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:15:22 PM EDT
                                     Biz trip - (bepatient) - Aug. 3, 2005, 04:29:48 PM EDT