But he didn't name names.

"Rove committed a firing offense. He leaked national security information as part of a fierce campaign to undermine Wilson, who had criticized the White House on the war on Iraq. Rove's overworked attorney, Robert Luskin, defends his client by arguing that Rove never revealed the name of Valerie Plame/Wilson to Cooper and that he only referred to her as Wilson's wife. This is not much of a defense. If Cooper or any other journalist had written that "Wilson's wife works for the CIA" -- without mentioning her name -- such a disclosure could have been expected to have the same effect as if her name had been used: Valerie Wilson would have been compromised, her anti-WMD work placed at risk, and national security potentially harmed. Either Rove knew that he was revealing an undercover officer to a reporter or he was identifying a CIA officer without bothering to check on her status and without considering the consequences of outing her. Take your pick: in both scenarios Rove is acting in a reckless and cavalier fashion, ignoring the national security interests of the nation to score a political point against a policy foe."

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Post #214,305 by marlowe 7/11/05 7:03:33 PM Reply	But he didn't name names. The presss needs a senation, and the Bush-hating yahoos are always glad to oblige, but these things always fizzle. This one's [link\|http://huffingtonstoast.com/336/i-am-rove-the-great-and-powerful/\|already a joke]. And of course [link\|http://huffingtonstoast.com/326/karl-rove-made-me-say-his-name-on-the-maclaughlin-group/\|Mr. O'Donnell's] been a laughingstock for a while now. ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #214,311 by JayMehaffey 7/11/05 7:28:35 PM Reply	Utterly transparent Rove's new 'I talked about it but I didn't name names' ranks up there with 'I didn't inhale' as a worthless and transparent defense. Except of course that Clintons crime is just a minor offense at worse, while Rove's borders on treason. Jay
Post #214,341 by tuberculosis 7/12/05 1:12:27 AM Reply	Technicality: "Wilson's Wife" is a pretty fair substitute "Rove committed a firing offense. He leaked national security information as part of a fierce campaign to undermine Wilson, who had criticized the White House on the war on Iraq. Rove's overworked attorney, Robert Luskin, defends his client by arguing that Rove never revealed the name of Valerie Plame/Wilson to Cooper and that he only referred to her as Wilson's wife. This is not much of a defense. If Cooper or any other journalist had written that "Wilson's wife works for the CIA" -- without mentioning her name -- such a disclosure could have been expected to have the same effect as if her name had been used: Valerie Wilson would have been compromised, her anti-WMD work placed at risk, and national security potentially harmed. Either Rove knew that he was revealing an undercover officer to a reporter or he was identifying a CIA officer without bothering to check on her status and without considering the consequences of outing her. Take your pick: in both scenarios Rove is acting in a reckless and cavalier fashion, ignoring the national security interests of the nation to score a political point against a policy foe." [link\|http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/07/11/opinion/main708115.shtml\|http://www.cbsnews.c.../main708115.shtml] "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #214,353 by Ashton 7/12/05 2:36:40 AM Reply	The question may well reduce to, Would (little '05-)Jesus ever fire one of his Apostles? And since Repo-words use an entirely different dictionary; one daily revised by Rove - I have no idea if therein contained is the word wrong. He who writes the dictionary.. and sends the kids to slaughter-for-Freedom -
Post #214,447 by jbrabeck 7/12/05 12:00:05 PM Reply	It's really a moot point. iffn he does get convicted, get's immediate presidential pardon. A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #214,450 by tuberculosis 7/12/05 12:05:48 PM Reply	First, need to convict the president. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #214,461 by Another Scott 7/12/05 12:35:15 PM Reply	President Cheney? <shudder>
Post #214,470 by tuberculosis 7/12/05 12:46:49 PM Reply	And his accomplices which could easily involve incarcerating about half of Americans. This should pose no problem as those to be incarcerated are the ones most in agreement on this approach to law enforcement. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #214,506 by Ashton 7/12/05 4:07:38 PM Reply	Logic! _____what hath happened to thy sting..
Post #214,471 by ben_tilly 7/12/05 12:47:54 PM Reply	Else he gets an immediate pardon I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #214,525 by Ashton 7/12/05 5:32:47 PM Reply	Ah yesss... The beauty of simplistic military masturbation fantasies (always.. Always attached to the blood&guts of that inexhaustible supply called, 'Others') is that, the simple sophistries are so malleable and ductile - You can stretch any one of the doggerel-pieces further than the mileage of a gold foil beater, when gilding the dome of some New penis-shaped Monument to ~~Power~~ The collateral-Dead. ie \|You + My Gramma\| = quite less than 0.01 \|Mensch\|, panicky model-airplane boy.
Post #214,553 by boxley 7/12/05 8:00:42 PM Reply	I know who Marlowe is! parrot party line, check more stupid than a pet rock, check, its Sean Hannity! thanx, bill Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #214,597 by jb4 7/13/05 9:50:37 AM Reply	Nicely done, Box! jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #214,882 by marlowe 7/14/05 9:34:03 PM Reply	In defense of my pseudonymity... I will neither confirm nor deny. Let `em wonder. ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #214,889 by boxley 7/14/05 9:50:19 PM Reply	:-) the part that clued me in was a rant about Rove nothing illegal here followed by a "we should investigate the NY times for illegal acts" not publishing an un illegal fact. Made me think of you right away. thanx, bill Just call me Mr. Lynch \\ Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 49 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #214,954 by jb4 7/15/05 9:43:56 AM Reply	Just goes to show how low Hannity will stoop just to clutter up our little corner of the Universe. Wouldn't you think he'd have more important things to do? You know, like, sponsor a Young Republicans meeting or something? jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #214,893 by ChrisR 7/14/05 9:55:41 PM Reply	Better stay on Rove's good side... ...or he'll out you.
Post #215,219 by marlowe 7/17/05 3:25:30 PM Reply	Rove would never out me. I've got too much on him. ---------------------------------------------------------------- If you don't like my posts, don't click on them. Well, pardon us for winning the election.
Post #214,564 by rcareaga 7/12/05 10:51:57 PM Reply	on not naming names (new thread) Created as new thread #214563 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=214563\|on not naming names] Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.

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