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No matter what the security deposit is, there will be more claimed damage than that. As someone said, a repaint is SOP regardless of condition. I've been burned by the carpet trick, too. Unless you have a signed inspection before you leave, it's your word against the carpet cleaner's. And he's on retainer to the landlord. What do you think he'll say?
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New Is it really SOP?
My wife and I have never had our full security deposit taken. Coincidentally (?) we've always been on good terms with our landlords.

Oh, some gets taken out. Generally for pretty reasonable things. But never the whole thing.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New What kind of landlord?
With corporate-owned apartments, I've never had a problem. Several times I've got the entire deposit back.

OTOH, a friend who was renting a privately owned house just about had to go to small claims court to get his deposit (or the appropriate part of his deposit) back.

Tony
New Both kinds.
We've moved from 5 places in the last decade. 2 institutions, 3 private homes. I know that we got refunds at all 3 private homes, and at least one institution. I am not sure about the other institution, but if we didn't get a refund it would only be because we did not have a damage deposit.

The one that was most difficult to get a refund from was the crap apartment building that we suspected was being run by people with mob ties. (Our first home in NYC. It was convenient to midtown and it was cheap for NYC. I can say nothing else good about it.)

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New For cheap ones
The less you can afford it, the more likely they'll keep it. Or more accurately, the more sure they are you can't afford the lawyer.
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New Interesting rule of thumb.
I hope it never applies to me. :-)

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Well, speaking as a landlord
Renters do wacky things sometimes, then refuse to own up. How much money I keep is directly proportional to how much work/annoyance I have to do/put up with to make the place look like it was when you moved in.

Example, last renter ran speaker wires using some kind of sticky tape along the baseboards that left lots of glue residue on the wood floors. It took me experimenting with 3-4 solvents and a lot of elbow grease to get that stuff off. Thus, I dinged him big for it.

You can't generally hire decent janitorial help that gives a damn and have to do it yourself. Giving a damn costs my time so you get to pay my consulting rates when you do stupid stuff that I have to fix myself.

He could have gotten his money back by cleaning that stuff up himself.

I've only kept a whole deposit once (and I get a big deposit) and that was for a psycho I evicted after only two months. It cost pretty much all of it to fix the place up, plus lost revenue for having down time, lawyer fees, asshole tax, etc...



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New ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #213079 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=213079|ICLRPD]
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Steve
     just got a bill from the ex landlords - (boxley) - (13)
         I would challenge anyway. - (bepatient)
         Generally painting is $0.75/sq ft -NT - (admin)
         >>Ex<<-landlord? - (pwhysall) - (10)
             Just guessing - (jbrabeck)
             doesnt work like that over here - (boxley) - (8)
                 Standard - (drewk) - (7)
                     Is it really SOP? - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                         What kind of landlord? - (tonytib) - (3)
                             Both kinds. - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                                 For cheap ones - (drewk) - (1)
                                     Interesting rule of thumb. - (ben_tilly)
                     Well, speaking as a landlord - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                         ICLRPD (new thread) - (Steve Lowe)

I'll even go so far as to concede that today's postliterate teenagers are already sufficiently impaired by pop culture that anything that serves to make them even more scatterbrained is rather in the way of gilding the lily, and should not be encouraged.
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