don't you _ever_ buy another thing.

Post #209,298 by cforde 6/1/05 2:43:42 AM Reply	don't you _ever_ buy another thing. ugh. moving is such a bear. So, for my wife's birthday this year, we bought a house. No more renting for us (again, this is our 2nd house). It's an amazing amount of work to move a four bedroom house into another four bedroom house; even if it is only 1.5km away. The goal was to be fully out of the old place (belongs out and place cleaned) and have everything into the new place on Saturday. We almost made it--missed by 15 minutes. oh well. I can live with that. At 8:30 this morning (Tuesday), was the checkout inspection. So at 8:45 with the papers signed and cheques (checks to the USAians) in hand we were fully done with the old house. Yayyy. The new place, while not exactly a fixer-upper is in need of some TLC and a make-over. We keep telling oursleves appearances are just cosmetic, but the more we look at it and talk about how we want to change it,... well it's a bit daunting. For now we're just trying to get settled, fix a bunch of smaller things and decide which major thing needs to get done first... Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #209,302 by Steve Lowe 6/1/05 3:40:28 AM Reply	Moving sucks When we moved into this place, I told the wife that I'm dying here, no more moving! :) Congrats on the new place, tackle the projects a room at a time, that can help you focus and make the jobs seem less daunting. -- Steve
Post #209,303 by pwhysall 6/1/05 4:57:43 AM Reply	Moving house is the thing I detest most of all. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #209,304 by a6l6e6x 6/1/05 5:02:55 AM Reply	Good luck with the new house, Carl! Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #209,321 by Yendor 6/1/05 9:23:04 AM Reply	Congrats! Refinish one room per year. With a 4-BR house, that's about 9-10 rooms, all told (generally). At that rate, every decade, each room will get updated once. Don't try to tackle them all at once, you'll get burned out. I've refinished 4 rooms and both the upstairs and downstairs hallways here in the last 18 months. I don't recommend following in my footsteps. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #209,324 by tuberculosis 6/1/05 9:34:12 AM 8/21/07 5:52:02 AM Reply	Heh - I've said that to my wife at least a dozen times this week. Packers come today - movers tomorrow - I've been tossing stuff out for 3 days. Bags and bags of crap we don't need. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:52:02 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #209,327 by drewk 6/1/05 9:35:32 AM Reply	"If you don't know what's in the bag, you don't need it." Chyeah, right. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #209,330 by tuberculosis 6/1/05 9:37:43 AM 8/21/07 5:52:09 AM Reply	My strategy is to have movers put all boxes in garage. Any unopened boxes at the end of a year can be hauled to the dump unopened. I've done this once before and it worked great. Working on convincing wife of this plan though. She is much more stuff bound than I. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 05:52:09 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #209,332 by Another Scott 6/1/05 9:42:27 AM Reply	My experience is... A week after I get rid of something I find that I need it. Or at least I think I need it. I used to be a terrible packrat. I'm a little better now. Luck with the move! Cheers, Scott.
Post #209,387 by ben_tilly 6/1/05 2:30:21 PM Reply	Au contraire... It sounds like you were a great packrat! Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #209,394 by Andrew Grygus 6/1/05 3:00:12 PM Reply	I have found that having too much stuff . . . . forces you to buy yet more stuff because you can't find things you know you have so you have to buy new ones. Just went through that with an electronic stud finder. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #209,460 by boxley 6/1/05 10:21:18 PM Reply	During our move wife "you got that out of the garage! that is crap that didnt even belong to us!" me" that crap is two new cannisters of 90 weight for when I change the gear lube in the van. I bought that in alaska before we left" (that was 5 years ago I'll get around to it sometime} thanx, bill All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #209,463 by Another Scott 6/1/05 10:27:19 PM Reply	:-)
Post #209,461 by Ashton 6/1/05 10:22:07 PM Reply	Bingo! Weller solder gun ... {mumble} bitchin German spl. pliers ... {grouse} 12, 14 mm box-end-wrenches ... ... {I NEED THOS! now} Finally found in a paper sack, taken on a house-call kinda thing. BAD little grey cells..
Post #209,467 by static 6/1/05 10:45:58 PM Reply	... left-handed screwdriver tube of shoe squeak red television colour patent crop rotater .... :-) Wade. Save Fintlewoodlewix
Post #209,471 by Steve Lowe 6/1/05 11:18:29 PM Reply	... Spare muffler bearings Bottle of halogen fluid Tube of brake grease -- Steve
Post #209,474 by drewk 6/1/05 11:32:42 PM Reply	... 50 feet of chow line === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #209,511 by Andrew Grygus 6/2/05 2:56:51 AM Reply	I've probably got all of those - - - somewhere. My greatest triumph was about a year after departure of a former girlfriend who had insisted I move all my stuff out of the garage so her stuff could go in. A lot of it was still heaped into a mountain in the driveway with a tarp over it. A client brought a failed Telex terminal to see if I could fix it. Bad power supply. I looked at the power supply and it seemed sort of familiar. I dove under the tarp with a flashlight and 10 minutes later everged with a brand new Telex power supply. The client was impressed (well, so was I). Of course, until that time I hadn't a hint what it was except that it was a power supply and I bought it real cheap from a surplus store. I got good money for it. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #209,525 by Another Scott 6/2/05 7:47:50 AM Reply	I've got a third of a PDP-8 core memory module somewhere...
Post #209,527 by jbrabeck 6/2/05 8:48:22 AM Reply	... Case of pipe stretching oil Left handed monkey wrench 1600bpi reel tape drive A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #209,663 by a6l6e6x 6/2/05 3:08:07 PM Reply	... Just this week, I shredded my IBM Travel Expense sheets that went back to the 1960's! Big old folder moved from office to office, to home when I left IBM, from stack to stack. Talk about absolutely useless stuff! I ran in to a the folder while looking for something else. Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #209,751 by Ashton 6/3/05 1:05:31 AM Reply	Hum it to sleep: KRS, RAR, JMS, SZL, 7402 ... zzzzzzzzzz
Post #209,502 by cforde 6/2/05 1:11:57 AM Reply	we threw out bags of stuff too and amazingly, even after we've moved we're still throwing out stuff we don't want. I thought we were rid of that stuff. You'd think it gestates in boxes or something.... Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #209,326 by boxley 6/1/05 9:35:11 AM Reply	having just been thru that I commiserate All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #209,334 by bionerd 6/1/05 9:50:44 AM Reply	One project at at time... If you look at it all at once you'll get overwhelmed! I'm in the process of making cosmetic changes to every room in my house. Just did the bathroom and 2 bedrooms and the deck. Was power washing my garage in preparation for painting and blew a big hole in the side. Rotted wood. Now I have to fix that. It's always something. I cant stand clutter. If I had to pack up and move it would be a breeze because I only keep what I use. If it hasnt been used in the last year off it goes to charity. Less stuff=less work.
Post #209,336 by Another Scott 6/1/05 10:04:41 AM Reply	But s/he who has the most stuff wins - haven't you heard?
Post #209,503 by cforde 6/2/05 1:16:58 AM Reply	we can't stand clutter either and the kitchen floor is cluttered waiting for the cupboards to be cleaned properly. Sydney, my wife, refuses to use the storage area under the stairs for storing food, as the previous owner did. She wants her food in the kitchen, thank-you-very-much. So we're figuring out something with a couple of storage shelves until we can renovate the kitchen. The bathroom on the main floor is first on the gut it and rebuild parade. Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #209,359 by hnick 6/1/05 11:50:54 AM Reply	I'm moving in a month and a half or so. I sympathize. We bought a 4 bedroom house 20 years ago assuming 2 kids. No kids but all the (large) closets are filled with my wife's stuff. We are moving to a smaller ranch type house with a lot less storage space. I am dreading this.
Post #209,377 by Nightowl 6/1/05 1:34:13 PM Reply	We also have a four-bedroom house and no kids Moving into ours wasn't all that bad, because John didn't have much stuff at the time, and all mine fit into about two rooms. But if we ever had to move now, Yikes.... Just packing up the 1500+ stuffed critters would be a job in itself! I feel for anyone in the moving process, hang in there and take it one box or one room at a time! Brenda Don't mind me, I'm playing in VI!
Post #209,400 by a6l6e6x 6/1/05 3:39:30 PM Reply	Re: 1500+ stuffed critters That's why there's an eBay! :) Yeah, I know it would be like selling your children. Alex The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
Post #209,401 by Nightowl 6/1/05 3:43:51 PM Reply	Re: 1500+ stuffed critters That's why there's an eBay! :) Yeah, I know it would be like selling your children. Exactly! ;) Brenda Don't mind me, I'm playing in VI!
Post #209,494 by ChrisR 6/2/05 12:43:36 AM Reply	Nothing like selling your children... ...any attempt to sell my children on EBay always results in a net loss as the prospects demand lots of cash in return for taking them.
Post #209,485 by pwhysall 6/2/05 12:33:57 AM Reply	Don't sell 'em. Have a big ol' bonfire instead. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #209,486 by Another Scott 6/2/05 12:35:26 AM Reply	!
Post #209,489 by pwhysall 6/2/05 12:38:20 AM Reply	Stuffed toys == TEH EVIL. Burn them all now. It's the only way to be sure. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #209,490 by Another Scott 6/2/05 12:40:17 AM Reply	She just needs a dog to play with them. ;-)
Post #209,528 by bionerd 6/2/05 8:55:18 AM Reply	So very true My dog Sadie loves to chew the eyes off my daughter's stuffed animals and pull the stuffing out from the resulting holes. That, and chewing hands off action figures. My son got a bunch of Star Wars toys for his birthday last weekend. He left them on the floor. Gen. Grevious did not fare well. We call him Stumpy now.
Post #209,530 by drewk 6/2/05 8:58:43 AM Reply	Your dog is a Sith I mean, cutting off the hands is like their trademark by now, isn't it? Darth Sadie. Doesn't have that ring to it ... === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #209,672 by Nightowl 6/2/05 3:33:10 PM 6/2/05 3:34:13 PM Reply	Re: So very true My dog Sadie loves to chew the eyes off my daughter's stuffed animals and pull the stuffing out from the resulting holes. That, and chewing hands off action figures. My son got a bunch of Star Wars toys for his birthday last weekend. He left them on the floor. Gen. Grevious did not fare well. We call him Stumpy now. OUCH! Man, I would flip out if a dog ate any of my Star Wars stuff. Of course most of mine is older and more valuable. ;) The bird will nibble on one of my stuffed critters here or there but usually with no damage. Mostly the ones that have fluffy hair or something that are on my computer desk. Brenda Edit: Clarified the critters, not the Star Wars items. If my bird ever eats one of my Star Wars items, he'd better hope the Force is with him and I don't CATCH him! Thank God for sleep. And when you can't sleep, still thank Him you live to lie awake. :) Edited by Nightowl June 2, 2005, 03:34:13 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #209,505 by cforde 6/2/05 1:21:40 AM Reply	I don't envy you that it really is amazing the volume of stuff that a house collects. I think there's great opportunity in studying the force that attracts stuff to houses. I think it was Carlin who said "home is where your stuff is". So what do you have if you get rid of a bunch of your stuff?? Is your house more of a home, the more stuff it has?? So it seems. Have fun, Carl Forde
Post #209,383 by ben_tilly 6/1/05 2:27:20 PM Reply	I have to do that this month. :-( (but smaller place) I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #209,769 by lister 6/3/05 9:48:52 AM Reply	Moving is okay I've moved a total of three times. Come next summer it'll be four. The first move was the biggest moving from the family home in the 'burbs of Trawnno out to the farer east shithole known as Ajax. Bleah. The only redeeming features were being a stone throw from Lake Ontario along with a good view. Fortunately my time out there was limited to four to five months. I got a taste of the train and subway commute from there to western Toronto and vowed never to do that again after I moved out. For that big move we got a big dumpster put on our driveway and my sister and I were tasked with chucking out all the useless shit my parents had acquired over the years. Lots and lots and lots of tacky '60s and '70s shit pulled up from the depths of the basement crawlspace. We filled that sucker up good! eBay wasn't around back then and a garage sale was out because I hate people, especially garage sale people. "Fuck you! No, it's $10. Read the tag! No I won't haggle. It's a coffee maker that's never been used. Fucking cheapskate!" With my final move, for hopefully a long time, to my very own brand spanking new downtown condo, I've been slowly over the past year going through all the crap I have in my tiny apartment. Stuff being sold, stuff being chucked, papers read and either kept or shredded and some stuff being boxed up well ahead of time. I hate packing things at the last minute. You lose any organization and can't find stuff for weeks on end after a move. I've helped move my sister twice, my dad twice, my mom twice, one friend three times and I expect a fourth move in the next few years, other friends a total of five times. Come the middle to end of June I'll be helping another friend move. As long as there is good beer and I get fed a meal or two, I don't mind. "Find out who your real friends are, move something!" lister
Post #209,771 by boxley 6/3/05 9:53:17 AM Reply	ICLRPD (new thread) Created as new thread #209770 titled [link\|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=209770\|ICLRPD] All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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