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Post #207,604 by broomberg 5/16/05 10:59:22 AM Reply	Thanks Also, I wondered if you'd figured out that cmd-` flipped through windows in an app layer on a desktop, No I hadn't.
Post #207,605 by admin 5/16/05 11:10:32 AM Reply	Tried ctrl-F4 yet? Supposedly that flips through open documents, regardless of application. If that works like alt-tab, you can remap it. I can't try it right now, because the Mini is at home. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #207,607 by broomberg 5/16/05 11:31:04 AM Reply	Re: Tried ctrl-F4 yet? Changes speaker volume. The Apple - Backtick works through open app windows for a particular app. It bounces to different desktops, though, so I can't open a series of windows for a particular project on a particular desktop and have it respect that boundary (as Todd steams while I bitch like the ingrate I am). But it is certainly closer than it was yesterday to being a usable environment.
Post #207,612 by admin 5/16/05 11:46:48 AM Reply	ctrl-F4, or Apple-F4? Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #207,615 by tuberculosis 5/16/05 12:26:30 PM Reply	I didn't find it bouncing to different desktops when using the commercial window manager to which I sent you the link. I had safari windows open on each of two desktops and it cmd-` didn't result in a switch. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #207,622 by broomberg 5/16/05 1:34:44 PM Reply	I was using the other desktop manager. I'll try the commercial one next.
Post #207,644 by broomberg 5/16/05 2:53:27 PM Reply	Happens on X terms but not browser windows Arrgg!!!
Post #207,667 by tuberculosis 5/16/05 3:29:26 PM Reply	So use regular terms you've found that exporting DISPLAY in the environment lets you use other terminal programs. This shows you how to set up globally available environment variables: [link\|http://www.astro.washington.edu/owen/AquaEnvVar.html\|http://www.astro.was...n/AquaEnvVar.html] "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #207,779 by admin 5/17/05 6:43:04 AM Reply	ctrl-F4 on mine cycles windows. Stupidly, though. It's not most-recent-used, it's just "go through all of the windows, regardless of application". Bleah. MRU is a good algorithm for this sort of thing. Not everyone stays in a single application all the time, which is what having two (three?!?) different keys to do the same thing assumes. I don't want to have to remember whether the MRU window is in another app or not in order to decide which key to use. That's asinine. Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (broomberg) - (49) - May 14, 2005, 01:03:21 PM EDT

I can't help, but... - (pwhysall) - (15) - May 14, 2005, 01:45:44 PM EDT

So you agree this interface sucks -NT - (broomberg) - (14) - May 14, 2005, 01:58:36 PM EDT

It seems to suck for you - (pwhysall) - (11) - May 14, 2005, 03:07:46 PM EDT

Agreed - (broomberg) - (10) - May 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM EDT

Expose does it for me - (SpiceWare) - May 14, 2005, 04:33:02 PM EDT

Multiple desktops... - (pwhysall) - (8) - May 14, 2005, 04:51:35 PM EDT

How many programs do you keep open, on how large a screen? -NT - (broomberg) - (7) - May 14, 2005, 05:08:55 PM EDT

Sometimes - (folkert) - (2) - May 14, 2005, 09:04:06 PM EDT

WTF? - (broomberg) - (1) - May 14, 2005, 11:55:42 PM EDT

I only give a crap about one fire at a time - (boxley) - May 15, 2005, 01:09:48 AM EDT

Quite a few, really. - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 15, 2005, 01:08:49 AM EDT

30 goddamn windows - (broomberg) - (2) - May 15, 2005, 01:13:20 AM EDT

No, it's not insane. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 15, 2005, 01:35:00 AM EDT

No -NT - (broomberg) - May 15, 2005, 01:53:42 AM EDT

I agree your attitude sucks - (tuberculosis) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 03:42:17 AM EDT

ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - May 16, 2005, 03:02:16 PM EDT

Re: Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (tjsinclair) - (21) - May 14, 2005, 07:19:33 PM EDT

Expose assumes many windows on a single screen - (broomberg) - (20) - May 14, 2005, 07:42:22 PM EDT

No, I think you expect it to be something its not - (bepatient) - (19) - May 14, 2005, 09:00:52 PM EDT

I'll never be a "typical" Mac user - (broomberg) - (18) - May 14, 2005, 11:58:33 PM EDT

Hmmmm - (tuberculosis) - (17) - May 16, 2005, 03:49:59 AM EDT

Do you use it? - (broomberg) - (11) - May 16, 2005, 06:33:50 AM EDT

No, I don't use multiple desktops - I don't think that way - (tuberculosis) - (10) - May 16, 2005, 10:26:51 AM EDT

Thanks - (broomberg) - (8) - May 16, 2005, 10:59:22 AM EDT

Tried ctrl-F4 yet? - (admin) - (7) - May 16, 2005, 11:10:32 AM EDT

Re: Tried ctrl-F4 yet? - (broomberg) - (6) - May 16, 2005, 11:31:04 AM EDT

ctrl-F4, or Apple-F4? -NT - (admin) - May 16, 2005, 11:46:48 AM EDT

I didn't find it bouncing to different desktops - (tuberculosis) - (3) - May 16, 2005, 12:26:30 PM EDT

I was using the other desktop manager. - (broomberg) - May 16, 2005, 01:34:44 PM EDT

Happens on X terms but not browser windows - (broomberg) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 02:53:27 PM EDT

So use regular terms - (tuberculosis) - May 16, 2005, 03:29:26 PM EDT

ctrl-F4 on mine cycles windows. - (admin) - May 17, 2005, 06:43:04 AM EDT

Why do you call "Apple-Key" Control? - (broomberg) - May 16, 2005, 11:21:11 AM EDT

I gotta go play with that. -NT - (pwhysall) - May 16, 2005, 06:56:10 AM EDT

That looks slick - (SpiceWare) - (3) - May 16, 2005, 08:29:30 AM EDT

Seems to work fine on Tiger - (tuberculosis) - (2) - May 16, 2005, 10:28:37 AM EDT

actually it's "as soon as possible after 4/29" - (SpiceWare) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 02:21:33 PM EDT

OK, current version works now though - (tuberculosis) - May 16, 2005, 02:42:19 PM EDT

Have you looked at Virtue and/or Quicksilver? - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 14, 2005, 08:18:05 PM EDT

Virtue doesn't do anything better - (broomberg) - (1) - May 14, 2005, 08:59:53 PM EDT

I'm not seeing that (the flakiness) - (pwhysall) - May 15, 2005, 01:43:13 AM EDT

Re: Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (pwhysall) - (7) - May 15, 2005, 01:33:43 AM EDT

Thanks - (broomberg) - May 15, 2005, 01:55:47 AM EDT

We *know* he's a desktop weirdo - (admin) - May 15, 2005, 08:42:07 AM EDT

Witch install directions don't mesh with 10.4 - (broomberg) - (1) - May 15, 2005, 08:23:20 PM EDT

Bummer. I like Witch. - (pwhysall) - May 16, 2005, 12:53:39 AM EDT

This is an illuminating discussion. - (static) - (2) - May 16, 2005, 01:58:05 AM EDT

I'm experimenting with MSVDM - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 03:03:26 AM EDT

I'm using DeskWin - (static) - May 17, 2005, 12:39:18 AM EDT

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