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Post #207,452
by pwhysall
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5/15/05 1:33:43 AM
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New Re: Multiwindow /multidesktop movement
OK, let's see if we can't ease your pain. I think you're a desktop weirdo, and I'm sure the feeling is reciprocal, but here we go:\r\n
    \r\n
  1. Switching between application windows : [link|http://www.petermaurer.de/nasi.php?thema=witch&sprache=english|http://www.petermaur...h&sprache=english]\r\n
    Witch can be configured to do what it is that I think you want.\r\n
    2. \r\n
  2. \r\nMultiple desktops: [link|http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/|http://virtuedesktops.sourceforge.net/]\r\n
    You might already have tried this, but I don't see mention of it. Jumps to the desktop a window is on. Witch's application switcher only shows the apps on the current desktop. You can send a window or application to a particular desktop, or make it appear on all of them. X11 windows appear under the X11 process.\r\n
    3. \r\n
\r\nWithout being too prescriptive (for which Ben has chastised me in the past) I think that these two applications should provide the functionality you require.\r\n

\r\nHope this helps.\r\n


Peter
[link|http://www.ubuntulinux.org|Ubuntu Linux]
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Post #207,456
by broomberg
5/15/05 1:55:47 AM
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New Thanks
Getting late.
I'll try in the morning.
Post #207,470
by admin
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5/15/05 8:42:07 AM
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New We *know* he's a desktop weirdo
As far as you're concerned, at least, because he works the same way I do, and we've already determined that you think I'm a weirdo.

I have 8 v-desks:
  1. Jabber group sessions
  2. Project
  3. Project
  4. Project
  5. Project
  6. Project
  7. VMWare
  8. Misc. (calendar, xmms, gaim/gabber main windows, etc.)

2-6 change depending on what I'm working on. I start on 2, then as I start another task (programming change, debug a production problem, whatever) I move to the next desktop and open up my typical 5-10 terminals, emacsen, Firefoxen, and so on. Any one particular project desktop may have up to 30 windows, and I manage them (quite effectively) with alt-tab.

I move between desktops with ctrl-F<1-8>, and can move windows to other desktops with ctrl-shift-F<1-8>. This works very nicely for me.

I haven't figured out how to be this productive on OS-X yet, but then again I haven't tried. I'm not a mouse person, so Expose has limited usefulness so far.
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #207,526
by broomberg
5/15/05 8:23:20 PM
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New Witch install directions don't mesh with 10.4
No PreferencePanes, just Preference.
When I put it there, it did not show up in the System Preference-Universal access like the readme said it should.
So I guess it's not ready for 10.4
Post #207,556
by pwhysall
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5/16/05 12:53:39 AM
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New Bummer. I like Witch.
My Tiger should be here today or tomorrow (curse you Amazon, etc) so I'll investigate then.

Peter
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Post #207,563
by static
5/16/05 1:58:05 AM
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New This is an illuminating discussion.
Although I'm in no danger of acquiring an OS X desktop, it is still a possibility and Barry's Adventures In OS X With Comments From Peter is an interesting study in Advanced Desktop Setup.

(Like Admin, I use multiple virtual desktops to develop with - a habit developed only recently under WindowMaker. So using XP here, I had to locate something to add virtual desktops to Windows.)

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.
Post #207,567
by pwhysall
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5/16/05 3:03:05 AM
5/16/05 3:03:26 AM
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New I'm experimenting with MSVDM
So far, it seems to be a bit of a steaming pile compared to the solutions available for UNIX (of either the OSX or Linux stripe).
Edit: Typo.

Peter
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Post #207,765
by static
5/17/05 12:39:18 AM
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New I'm using DeskWin
Get it from [link|http://www.yipton.net/|http://www.yipton.net/]

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.
     Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (broomberg) - (49) - May 14, 2005, 01:03:21 PM EDT
         I can't help, but... - (pwhysall) - (15) - May 14, 2005, 01:45:44 PM EDT
             So you agree this interface sucks -NT - (broomberg) - (14) - May 14, 2005, 01:58:36 PM EDT
                 It seems to suck for you - (pwhysall) - (11) - May 14, 2005, 03:07:46 PM EDT
                     Agreed - (broomberg) - (10) - May 14, 2005, 04:04:00 PM EDT
                         Expose does it for me - (SpiceWare) - May 14, 2005, 04:33:02 PM EDT
                         Multiple desktops... - (pwhysall) - (8) - May 14, 2005, 04:51:35 PM EDT
                             How many programs do you keep open, on how large a screen? -NT - (broomberg) - (7) - May 14, 2005, 05:08:55 PM EDT
                                 Sometimes - (folkert) - (2) - May 14, 2005, 09:04:06 PM EDT
                                     WTF? - (broomberg) - (1) - May 14, 2005, 11:55:42 PM EDT
                                         I only give a crap about one fire at a time - (boxley) - May 15, 2005, 01:09:48 AM EDT
                                 Quite a few, really. - (pwhysall) - (3) - May 15, 2005, 01:08:49 AM EDT
                                     30 goddamn windows - (broomberg) - (2) - May 15, 2005, 01:13:20 AM EDT
                                         No, it's not insane. - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 15, 2005, 01:35:00 AM EDT
                                             No -NT - (broomberg) - May 15, 2005, 01:53:42 AM EDT
                 I agree your attitude sucks - (tuberculosis) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 03:42:17 AM EDT
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - May 16, 2005, 03:02:16 PM EDT
         Re: Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (tjsinclair) - (21) - May 14, 2005, 07:19:33 PM EDT
             Expose assumes many windows on a single screen - (broomberg) - (20) - May 14, 2005, 07:42:22 PM EDT
                 No, I think you expect it to be something its not - (bepatient) - (19) - May 14, 2005, 09:00:52 PM EDT
                     I'll never be a "typical" Mac user - (broomberg) - (18) - May 14, 2005, 11:58:33 PM EDT
                         Hmmmm - (tuberculosis) - (17) - May 16, 2005, 03:49:59 AM EDT
                             Do you use it? - (broomberg) - (11) - May 16, 2005, 06:33:50 AM EDT
                                 No, I don't use multiple desktops - I don't think that way - (tuberculosis) - (10) - May 16, 2005, 10:26:51 AM EDT
                                     Thanks - (broomberg) - (8) - May 16, 2005, 10:59:22 AM EDT
                                         Tried ctrl-F4 yet? - (admin) - (7) - May 16, 2005, 11:10:32 AM EDT
                                             Re: Tried ctrl-F4 yet? - (broomberg) - (6) - May 16, 2005, 11:31:04 AM EDT
                                                 ctrl-F4, or Apple-F4? -NT - (admin) - May 16, 2005, 11:46:48 AM EDT
                                                 I didn't find it bouncing to different desktops - (tuberculosis) - (3) - May 16, 2005, 12:26:30 PM EDT
                                                     I was using the other desktop manager. - (broomberg) - May 16, 2005, 01:34:44 PM EDT
                                                     Happens on X terms but not browser windows - (broomberg) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 02:53:27 PM EDT
                                                         So use regular terms - (tuberculosis) - May 16, 2005, 03:29:26 PM EDT
                                                 ctrl-F4 on mine cycles windows. - (admin) - May 17, 2005, 06:43:04 AM EDT
                                     Why do you call "Apple-Key" Control? - (broomberg) - May 16, 2005, 11:21:11 AM EDT
                             I gotta go play with that. -NT - (pwhysall) - May 16, 2005, 06:56:10 AM EDT
                             That looks slick - (SpiceWare) - (3) - May 16, 2005, 08:29:30 AM EDT
                                 Seems to work fine on Tiger - (tuberculosis) - (2) - May 16, 2005, 10:28:37 AM EDT
                                     actually it's "as soon as possible after 4/29" - (SpiceWare) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 02:21:33 PM EDT
                                         OK, current version works now though - (tuberculosis) - May 16, 2005, 02:42:19 PM EDT
         Have you looked at Virtue and/or Quicksilver? - (Another Scott) - (2) - May 14, 2005, 08:18:05 PM EDT
             Virtue doesn't do anything better - (broomberg) - (1) - May 14, 2005, 08:59:53 PM EDT
                 I'm not seeing that (the flakiness) - (pwhysall) - May 15, 2005, 01:43:13 AM EDT
         Re: Multiwindow /multidesktop movement - (pwhysall) - (7) - May 15, 2005, 01:33:43 AM EDT
             Thanks - (broomberg) - May 15, 2005, 01:55:47 AM EDT
             We *know* he's a desktop weirdo - (admin) - May 15, 2005, 08:42:07 AM EDT
             Witch install directions don't mesh with 10.4 - (broomberg) - (1) - May 15, 2005, 08:23:20 PM EDT
                 Bummer. I like Witch. - (pwhysall) - May 16, 2005, 12:53:39 AM EDT
             This is an illuminating discussion. - (static) - (2) - May 16, 2005, 01:58:05 AM EDT
                 I'm experimenting with MSVDM - (pwhysall) - (1) - May 16, 2005, 03:03:26 AM EDT
                     I'm using DeskWin - (static) - May 17, 2005, 12:39:18 AM EDT

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