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Post #203,683
by tablizer
4/17/05 11:26:44 PM
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New Cross-platform is an implementation detail
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Post #203,688
by ben_tilly
4/17/05 11:49:49 PM
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New A detail that requires...
not implementing in VB.

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Post #203,805
by mmoffitt
4/18/05 4:10:02 PM
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New But not RealBasic.
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Post #203,694
by pwhysall
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4/18/05 1:38:58 AM
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New The point is...
...we already have a method of doing sufficiently rich content onto various platforms, called a "web browser". And like opinions and arseholes, everyone's got one.


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Post #203,699
by CRConrad
4/18/05 5:32:48 AM
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New For varying- and IMO insufficient- def'ns of "sufficiently".
Post #203,706
by pwhysall
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4/18/05 7:29:14 AM
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New What is that you can't do in a web browser...
...that would make it worth developing a new set of client-side things you have to install (and support, and develop in the first place) across multiple platforms with disparate UI behaviour, thus more-or-less guaranteeing that on all but one of your platforms, your application looks and acts like a dog?

Remember, Java exists. I don't see what Bryce's idea offers that Java doesn't.

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     Dynamic web apps vs rich clients - (bluke) - (53) - March 29, 2005, 06:42:12 AM EST
         I hope it does. - (pwhysall) - March 29, 2005, 07:07:21 AM EST
         I'm telling ya, gotta move back to VB/Delphi model - (tablizer) - (40) - March 30, 2005, 04:45:33 AM EST
             Yeah. - (pwhysall) - (38) - March 30, 2005, 06:01:24 AM EST
                 Try this. - (mmoffitt) - March 30, 2005, 08:12:36 AM EST
                 Well, if we can fiat SCGUI into existence... - (ChrisR) - March 30, 2005, 08:36:08 AM EST
                 I meant in general -NT - (tablizer) - (35) - April 13, 2005, 03:44:48 AM EDT
                     The idea sucks in general, too. -NT - (pwhysall) - (34) - April 13, 2005, 07:18:07 AM EDT
                         you were vague on why it "sucked" -NT - (tablizer) - (33) - April 16, 2005, 04:00:43 PM EDT
                             I have a Mac. Or a Linux box. Or an Amiga. Or a toaster. - (pwhysall) - (32) - April 17, 2005, 02:35:22 PM EDT
                                 Cross-platform is an implementation detail -NT - (tablizer) - (5) - April 17, 2005, 11:26:44 PM EDT
                                     A detail that requires... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - April 17, 2005, 11:49:49 PM EDT
                                         But not RealBasic. -NT - (mmoffitt) - April 18, 2005, 04:10:02 PM EDT
                                     The point is... - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 18, 2005, 01:38:58 AM EDT
                                         For varying- and IMO insufficient- def'ns of "sufficiently". -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - April 18, 2005, 05:32:48 AM EDT
                                             What is that you can't do in a web browser... - (pwhysall) - April 18, 2005, 07:29:14 AM EDT
                                 Bullshit. - (CRConrad) - (25) - April 18, 2005, 05:32:26 AM EDT
                                     You're so LITERAL, CRC. - (pwhysall) - (24) - April 18, 2005, 07:25:11 AM EDT
                                         Yeah, well, sorry; we can't all be illiterate, I guess... - (CRConrad) - (23) - April 18, 2005, 08:40:59 AM EDT
                                             Re: Yeah, well, sorry; we can't all be illiterate, I guess.. - (admin) - (12) - April 18, 2005, 09:03:55 AM EDT
                                                 Most sub-giga-RAM boxes I've used J-apps on, it's still SLOW -NT - (CRConrad) - (1) - April 18, 2005, 09:23:35 AM EDT
                                                     Just like there are bad UIs in some VB programs... -NT - (admin) - April 18, 2005, 10:13:00 AM EDT
                                                 Slow at what? - (tuberculosis) - (7) - April 18, 2005, 12:51:46 PM EDT
                                                     Re: Slow at what? - (admin) - (6) - April 18, 2005, 01:31:15 PM EDT
                                                         OpenOffice Win32 is a turtle. :-( - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 18, 2005, 02:18:45 PM EDT
                                                             I'm not talking about Windows. - (admin) - (4) - April 18, 2005, 03:45:06 PM EDT
                                                                 Your IDEA launches considerably faster than mine - (tuberculosis) - (3) - April 18, 2005, 04:20:03 PM EDT
                                                                     He is TEH ADMIN, remember. - (pwhysall) - (1) - April 18, 2005, 04:22:25 PM EDT
                                                                         :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - April 18, 2005, 04:25:38 PM EDT
                                                                     Must be your encouraging mental field... -NT - (admin) - April 18, 2005, 06:11:15 PM EDT
                                                 Not slow? - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 18, 2005, 04:14:48 PM EDT
                                                     Yeah, that's bad code. - (admin) - April 18, 2005, 04:18:09 PM EDT
                                             So, to summarise: - (pwhysall) - (2) - April 18, 2005, 10:26:22 AM EDT
                                                 Which VB? - (ChrisR) - (1) - April 18, 2005, 10:43:54 AM EDT
                                                     Ask CRC, he's the one with a stiffy for it :-) -NT - (pwhysall) - April 18, 2005, 10:49:04 AM EDT
                                             Eat shit, a billion flies can't be wrong - (ben_tilly) - (6) - April 18, 2005, 02:45:24 PM EDT
                                                 Sheesh, man... it's obvious that some of us can, though. - (CRConrad) - (5) - April 19, 2005, 03:33:11 AM EDT
                                                     I can read just fine. - (ben_tilly) - (4) - April 19, 2005, 11:31:04 AM EDT
                                                         Yep, I still think so. - (CRConrad) - (3) - April 20, 2005, 08:56:55 AM EDT
                                                             You've clearly not encountered that line before - (ben_tilly) - (2) - April 20, 2005, 09:21:37 AM EDT
                                                                 Oh, POAD, you whiney ars...rectum. - (CRConrad) - (1) - April 20, 2005, 09:48:41 AM EDT
                                                                     Definitely not before I could read... - (ben_tilly) - April 20, 2005, 11:24:49 AM EDT
             Notice how the mention of Turing pins everyone's bogometer -NT - (FuManChu) - March 30, 2005, 10:55:24 AM EST
         Going for the extinguish part? - (warmachine) - (9) - March 30, 2005, 07:43:21 AM EST
             Have you used gmail or google maps? - (ben_tilly) - (8) - March 30, 2005, 10:39:52 AM EST
                 Alas, Opera ain't fully supported - (warmachine) - (6) - March 30, 2005, 10:58:59 AM EST
                     Microsoft is developing Ajax? Buh? - (admin) - March 30, 2005, 11:46:09 AM EST
                     You mean that Opera doesn't fully support standards - (tuberculosis) - (1) - March 30, 2005, 12:15:40 PM EST
                         Question about JS and Firefox (new thread) - (jb4) - March 31, 2005, 10:45:11 AM EST
                     As others have pointed out, that is Opera's fault - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 30, 2005, 04:53:14 PM EST
                         What's funny about that - (tuberculosis) - (1) - March 30, 2005, 09:12:07 PM EST
                             Re: What's funny about that - (pwhysall) - March 31, 2005, 12:53:54 AM EST
                 NONONONONO - (pwhysall) - March 30, 2005, 11:29:06 AM EST
         Shrug...rich clients aren't going anywhere - (Simon_Jester) - March 30, 2005, 04:37:51 PM EST

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