Eat shit, a billion flies can't be wrong

Post #203,787 by ben_tilly 4/18/05 2:45:24 PM Reply	Eat shit, a billion flies can't be wrong Many of us have good reasons for avoiding Windows. And if you want to start criticizing us for wanting to avoid Windows, we're going to think that you're an idiot. For good reason. Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #203,861 by CRConrad 4/19/05 3:33:11 AM Reply	Sheesh, man... it's obvious that some of us can, though. Be unable to read, that is. .-( What does it take; should I have called im a commie longhair hippie freak, too? [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #203,889 by ben_tilly 4/19/05 11:31:04 AM Reply	I can read just fine. Go back to your previous post. The whole schmeer doesn't run on my Mac. It doesn't run on your Mac?!? Who gives a shit??? What the fuck are you; some kind of artist?!? Sorry, I mean -- some kind of artiste??? Buy a fucking normal computer, like a fucking normal person. This may have been a pathetic attempt at humor. But it was too pathetic an attempt to interpret that way, hence I didn't. Therefore I applied logic. The only "fucking normal computer" on which VB works is Windows on x86. The argument that this is what a "fucking normal person" would do is an argument from popularity. Specifically an argument from popularity to use Windows. The normal response to someone saying, Do X because that is what everyone does is the line, Eat shit, a billion flies can't be wrong. (Or trivial variations thereof.) Hence my response. In short Peter's complaint that it doesn't work on his Mac is reasonable to me. His complaint that it also doesn't work on his Linux machine is reasonable to me. Your response that he should be normal and run a normal computer (by implication Windows) seems stupid to me. Which fact I proceeded to point out. If you still think that my reading comprehension lacks, please clarify. Regards, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #203,991 by CRConrad 4/20/05 8:56:55 AM Reply	Yep, I still think so. BenT asks [Moved around to suit my order - CRC]: If you still think that my reading comprehension lacks, please clarify. OK, I'll try. This may have been a pathetic attempt at humor. But it was too pathetic an attempt to interpret that way, hence I didn't. Therefore I applied logic. It was indeed "an attempt" at humour. And I'm sorry, But I'm not going to take your word for it that it was "pathetic"; your humour circuitry appears to be, if not damaged, then not of the best to begin with. Look, for instance, at your own closely following passage: The normal response to someone saying, Do X because that is what everyone does is the line, Eat shit, a billion flies can't be wrong. (Or trivial variations thereof.) Hence my response. SIGH... The bit about a billion flies not being wrong is what's called in the humour business a "set-up line"; the "Eat shit!" part is a so-called "punch-line". Anyone who calls putting the punch-line BEFORE the set-up a "trivial" variation is soooo not qualified to pass judgement on my humour. HTH. [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #204,004 by ben_tilly 4/20/05 9:21:37 AM Reply	You've clearly not encountered that line before It is far more common to put the "Eat shit" bit first. Google for how many times you find various variations to verify that. It puts the emphasis in the place that makes the desired point, which is how stupid it is to do things because they are popular. Besides, anyone who would attempt to break a joke down into semantics like you did is obviously not processing things the same way that normal people are. Every rule gets broken from time to time. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #204,018 by CRConrad 4/20/05 9:48:41 AM Reply	Oh, POAD, you whiney ars...rectum. My first encounter with that line predates Google by just a tad; it was probably before you were able to read, too. A classmate had it printed on a T-shirt (complete with silly cartoon of a furry fly and a pile of dung) in... Must have been about 1978. Be that how it may, I still don't see how moving the punch-line before the set-up somehow alters "the emphasis"; AFAICS, the point remains the same either way. And, your gibbering about "break[ing] a joke down into semantics" (like, babbling about how ruining the joke "makes the desired point"?) notwithstanding, I'm still fairly sure it's a well-know common-sense basic rule of joke-telling: You save the punch line for last. Are you seriously trying to dispute this? Or are you trying to claim that it isn't supposed to be a joke at all? Oh, whogivesafuck: Keep whining, you annoying miserable little sod; I'm not going to listen any more. [Marvellous phrase, there, (c) PW -- Thanks!] [link\|mailto:MyUserId@MyISP.CountryCode\|Christian R. Conrad] (I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.) Your lies are of Microsoftian Scale and boring to boot. Your 'depression' may be the closest you ever come to recognizing truth: you have no 'inferiority complex', you are inferior - and something inside you recognizes this. - [link\|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=71575\|Ashton Brown]
Post #204,053 by ben_tilly 4/20/05 11:24:49 AM Reply	Definitely not before I could read... 1978 was the year I turned 9, I'd already discovered science fiction by then. As for the rest, I think we are agreed that there is no point in continued discussion between us. Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

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