Name a society that's fully armed.

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Post #202,627

by jake123

4/9/05 2:28:29 PM

Name a society that's fully armed.

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Post #202,631

by warmachine

4/9/05 3:11:41 PM

Switzerland

Switzerland: naff all professional forces but a huge great milita.

Though I agree with you. Switzerland is a non-violent society whereas the USA is not. Guns and agression is a bad mixture.

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Post #202,638

by jake123

4/9/05 3:55:14 PM

Tell me, if you walk down the street in say Basel

how many people are packing? If they are packing, what are the penalties to them?

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Post #202,643

by imric

4/9/05 5:17:51 PM

Funny.

I'm far more worried about drunk drivers than people 'packing heat' on the street.

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Post #202,647

by jake123

4/9/05 5:36:27 PM

Me too

of course, part of the reason for that is because there isn't anybody packing heat on the street here.

How many people pack heat where you live?

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Post #202,695

by imric

4/10/05 12:02:45 PM

If they 'pack', they are obligated to initiate gunplay

Right?

The fact that I don't fear getting gunned down at all, but I do get nervous about irresponsible drivers should say SOMETHING to you.

I don't expect to change any minds - those that would save society from themselves by making law-abiding citizens more dependent on, and subject to, government rarely change their minds.

Most anti-gun nuts seem to believe that citizens can only be trusted if they are in service to the government.

I disagree, most emphatically.

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Post #202,717

by jake123

4/10/05 4:14:16 PM

I dunno

you guys manage to murder more than ten times the people than we do. We don't have guns all over the place. Coincidence?

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Post #202,735

by boxley

4/10/05 6:17:04 PM

coverup on your side :-)

If one was to racially segregate the murders down here you ould a find a closer match to your whitebread statistics up north.
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Post #202,874

by jake123

4/11/05 1:04:20 PM

Not anymore

as has been pointed out recently, whites are already a minority in Vancouver, and will be within another five or so years in Toronto. Even Montreal is on the verge of losing its "French majority" status as the tete-carrees, allos, and ethnics will outnumber the French in that city quite soon. Not only that, but between those three cities you're talking about 25%-30% of the population of Canada right there.

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Post #202,658

by warmachine

4/9/05 6:47:06 PM

Very few

IIRC, the guns are rifles given as part of their militia duties. They don't wonder the streets with them. I don't know about gun crime penalties. The Swiss see their rifles as a defence against invading, foreign powers. Switzerland is a polite society. The US have a different reason for guns, ownership is high and doubt anyone regards the USA as a polite society. You can guess which nation I think doesn't need looser gun control.

Post #202,949

by pwhysall

4/12/05 1:01:06 AM

Ah, but that's different

AFAIK they're issued with their weapons and a certain amount of ammunition, and they have to keep them locked up in government-certified lockers and be able to produce the gun plus the issued amount of ammunition, for inspection, on demand.

It's a weapon issued for national defence, not personal defence.

Speaking of guns - (tuberculosis) - (43) - April 9, 2005, 11:20:53 AM EDT

An armed society - (broomberg) - (36) - April 9, 2005, 11:27:43 AM EDT

An armed society - (jake123) - (35) - April 9, 2005, 11:34:57 AM EDT

and your point is? -NT - (boxley) - (34) - April 9, 2005, 12:17:43 PM EDT

My point - (jake123) - (33) - April 9, 2005, 01:37:19 PM EDT

well as long as you are satisfied - (boxley) - (6) - April 9, 2005, 01:45:18 PM EDT

Just like people shouldn't judge all of the US from east LA - (jake123) - (5) - April 9, 2005, 01:50:39 PM EDT

Hochelaga? whats that? -NT - (boxley) - (4) - April 9, 2005, 05:25:25 PM EDT

Oops, sorry, - (jake123) - (3) - April 9, 2005, 05:35:01 PM EDT

lived in otterburn park, did gun shopping in verdun -NT - (boxley) - (2) - April 9, 2005, 05:44:40 PM EDT

Was harder to get one for a while, and is easier now - (jake123) - (1) - April 9, 2005, 05:45:58 PM EDT

thats yer other problem, turning ordinary folks - (boxley) - April 9, 2005, 06:15:32 PM EDT

And vs. societies that are fully armed? - (imric) - (25) - April 9, 2005, 02:15:06 PM EDT

Name a society that's fully armed. -NT - (jake123) - (10) - April 9, 2005, 02:28:29 PM EDT

Switzerland - (warmachine) - (9) - April 9, 2005, 03:11:41 PM EDT

Tell me, if you walk down the street in say Basel - (jake123) - (7) - April 9, 2005, 03:55:14 PM EDT

Funny. - (imric) - (5) - April 9, 2005, 05:17:51 PM EDT

Me too - (jake123) - (4) - April 9, 2005, 05:36:27 PM EDT

If they 'pack', they are obligated to initiate gunplay - (imric) - (3) - April 10, 2005, 12:02:45 PM EDT

I dunno - (jake123) - (2) - April 10, 2005, 04:14:16 PM EDT

coverup on your side :-) - (boxley) - (1) - April 10, 2005, 06:17:04 PM EDT

Not anymore - (jake123) - April 11, 2005, 01:04:20 PM EDT

Very few - (warmachine) - April 9, 2005, 06:47:06 PM EDT

Ah, but that's different - (pwhysall) - April 12, 2005, 01:01:06 AM EDT

Miller, 1938. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (13) - April 11, 2005, 12:12:56 PM EDT

so you admit the USSC is always right? -NT - (boxley) - (2) - April 11, 2005, 03:32:58 PM EDT

Nope. But it does go to show that ... - (mmoffitt) - (1) - April 12, 2005, 05:51:19 PM EDT

nah, picken choose the ones you like -NT - (boxley) - April 12, 2005, 10:35:52 PM EDT

*shrug* deny that fully armed societies exist all you want. -NT - (imric) - (9) - April 11, 2005, 04:00:26 PM EDT

OK - if you'll deny - (Ashton) - (8) - April 12, 2005, 05:29:59 AM EDT

I don't deny - (imric) - (7) - April 12, 2005, 07:07:24 AM EDT

But do you also deny... - (jb4) - (5) - April 12, 2005, 09:56:00 AM EDT

I deny that they force ANYONE - (imric) - (4) - April 12, 2005, 10:19:24 AM EDT

BUY THAT GUN ER ELSE, PARDNER! - (bepatient) - (3) - April 12, 2005, 11:06:05 AM EDT

What's the name of the GA town that... - (jb4) - (1) - April 12, 2005, 12:59:15 PM EDT

ROFL... Forgot about them. - (imric) - April 12, 2005, 01:39:53 PM EDT

Actually there was one town out in KY - (Simon_Jester) - April 12, 2005, 01:02:44 PM EDT

I may change my mind, too as the New Taliban cement their - (Ashton) - April 13, 2005, 06:09:51 AM EDT

On the gripping hand... - (Another Scott) - (5) - April 9, 2005, 11:44:51 AM EDT

{chortle} nice excerpt re raw-stats: mothers milk of US pols -NT - (Ashton) - April 9, 2005, 07:36:53 PM EDT

I've read it recently - (Arkadiy) - (3) - June 2, 2005, 11:48:33 PM EDT

OT: Hey, long time no see! Welcome back. -NT - (Another Scott) - (2) - June 2, 2005, 11:56:54 PM EDT

Ditt Tow! Don't be a stranger! -NT - (jb4) - (1) - June 3, 2005, 04:46:19 PM EDT

I've been around, just not posting - (Arkadiy) - June 6, 2005, 01:07:24 PM EDT

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