Some random thoughts.

Post #200,754 by Another Scott 3/27/05 10:12:39 AM Reply	Some random thoughts. No, I can't answer your questions. It looks like running straight MS-DOS clients will be difficult with 2003 Server: [link\|http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/WinNT_Networking/Q_21280179.html\|Here]: [Q] hi out there. have a simple (at least i hope so) question. running 4 machines which has to connect by dos client in our domain. mostly it works but sometimes they get an error message. it says: "access denied". also we are running w2k network with 4 domain controllers, one of them on server2003. so my guess is that every time they want to logon in the domain and the 2003 DC is servicing them they get this error message. is there a way in netlogon to prefer a DC which is definetly on w2k? [A] For dos client you can't designate a Domain Controller because dos clients do not use LDAP to query DNS for Domain Controller they simply use underlaying protocols to communicate with Domain Controller and LAN Manager takes care of this so LAN Manager uses NT4.0 architecture. Thankx SystmProg If you only need DOS clients, wouldn't you be better off with a Linux server somewhere providing the login services to the DOS boxes? Maybe some variation of [link\|http://cui.unige.ch/info/pc/remote-boot/howto-3.html\|this] remote booting setup? Or running a stripped-down Linux client that ran [link\|http://www.dosemu.org/\|DOSEMU] or [link\|http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/news.php?show_news=1\|DOSBox]? I'd be very nervous about running Win98 on any networked machine these days. HTH a bit, or at least gives you a possible different mode of attack. Cheers, Scott.
Post #200,758 by mmoffitt 3/27/05 10:20:55 AM Reply	Thanks. I'll look through those. The biggest problem we have encountered (and I'm new on this particular project - my predecessors have struggled with this through the last couple of years and it is one of the larger messes I've ever seen. I'm incrementally trying to clean all this up) is that the DOS apps are Clipper compiled applications. My company tried unsuccessfully a couple years ago trying to use samba. I'm not certain of details, but I was gold that the clients "didn't have enough free memory" to execute the Clipper apps. The DOS boxen are now connecting to a Netware 5.1 server using Novell's DOS client on a VG network. No, I didn't mistype that, a VG network. Aside: our supplier for NICs and other gear for this network is eBay. And no, I don't sleep very well yet. :0( bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #200,760 by Another Scott 3/27/05 10:29:23 AM Reply	If you've got the Clipper source, look at FlagShip. [link\|http://www.fship.com/\|Flagship]. If you don't, well, it's probably only going to keep getting worse trying to support such old code. I know nothing about it, but it was [link\|http://groups-beta.google.com/group/comp.lang.clipper/browse_thread/thread/aee9d4a13065dba4/f0d9de1330acf3a6?q=DOSemu+clipper&rnum=3#f0d9de1330acf3a6\|reported] in 2000 to be 100 times faster than Clipper and compatible with Clipper '87 to 5.2x (5.3 now). Luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #200,761 by mmoffitt 3/27/05 10:36:29 AM Reply	As a consultant a couple years back, ... that's what I suggested. We do have the source - er, some of the source. This app base is what the company was founded on and what it still largely runs on. And the problem with Flagship is that over the years, several libraries were purchased from long defunct companies and the source for that is unavailable. Flagship folks said that was a big problem. But, I'd love to turn those DOS boxen into Linux boxen, maybe I should give it another look... bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #200,772 by Another Scott 3/27/05 11:23:15 AM Reply	Decompiler? [link\|http://www.hallogram.com/valkyrie/\|Valkyrie] - a Clipper decompiler. I don't know how well it works with protected code (if that's an issue) and it doesn't work with 5.3. That may not help you if the libraries in question aren't written in Clipper. You're probably aware of tools like that, but just in case you weren't... Luck! Cheers, Scott.
Post #200,846 by mmoffitt 3/28/05 7:51:24 AM Reply	Thanks. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. God Bless America.
Post #200,796 by boxley 3/27/05 8:46:58 PM Reply	clipper eh? DOS 3.3 emulation should work? Is there any still out there? thanx, bill All tribal myths are true, for a given value of "true" Terry Pratchett [link\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/\|http://boxleys.blogspot.com/] Any opinions expressed by me are mine alone, posted from my home computer, on my own time as a free american and do not reflect the opinions of any person or company that I have had professional relations with in the past 48 years. meep questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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