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Post #199,971
by andread
3/22/05 3:45:52 PM
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New No one is lying
one side is using science
the other wishful thinking

no lying is going on

I listened to an audio tape of Terry and her father
yesterday
it was clear to me she was not communicating
but her father may feel differently (he may
also be wrong)

I lost my 21 y/o niece in January after she had
been in a coma for a year
many times in the early months we thought we
were communicating with her and that she understood
but after a while either more brain damage set in or
we were just dreaming in the first place

still, my niece was dead for months, as far as I could
see, before she died

Schiavo has been dead for years

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Post #199,972
by Another Scott
3/22/05 3:47:40 PM
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New Condolences on your loss. :-(
Post #199,980
by imric
3/22/05 4:25:07 PM
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New :-(
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Post #200,055
by Ashton
3/23/05 7:31:23 AM
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New Re: No one is lying
Regrets, too on your experience - the younger the harder.

As regards communicating - I only hazily recall a fad of a few years back re autistic (or similar) children. A group coalesced around a claim that certain 'auditors' (it was some other title) could elicit rather lengthy 'communications' from the subjects. I think.. via a keyboard 'facilitated' by these 'trained' emissaries (?)

Think Ouija.. the debunking was elegant, but I've forgotten too much of the story even to Google for the details. Believe PBS did an hour on this, at the time.

As with the witchhunt of childcare workers portrayed as Satanists, also via highly manipulative 'therapist'-inculcators -- we should never lose sight of the fact of the dense thread of superstition extant in Murican culture. It complements the antiintellectualism, love for Disneyland fantasies (and maybe the xenophobia is in there too, orthogonally?)

Scientology demonstrates the hi-tech generic version, complete with algorithm$. Created virtually "on a bet". Desire - never mind if the object is near-impossible - appears to befog discrimination, often.


May we survive long enough to someday leave adolescence -
Post #200,069
by Another Scott
3/23/05 8:20:25 AM
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New Frontline: "Prisoners of Silence." October 19, 1993.
[link|http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/programs/transcripts/1202.html|Transcript].

Cheers,
Scott.
     It's good to see... - (pwhysall) - (35) - March 21, 2005, 07:07:50 AM EST
         s/cerebellum/cerebrum - (Another Scott) - (2) - March 21, 2005, 08:29:35 AM EST
             Thanks for the correction - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 21, 2005, 01:28:50 PM EST
                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - March 21, 2005, 01:39:46 PM EST
         Respect for life from Bush? - (warmachine) - (2) - March 21, 2005, 08:33:17 AM EST
             Better than that... - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - March 21, 2005, 09:34:28 AM EST
                 The first satire proof President - (warmachine) - March 21, 2005, 10:08:58 AM EST
         Again, how do you know - (Arkadiy) - (24) - March 21, 2005, 12:58:14 PM EST
             You need to define your terms. - (Another Scott) - (18) - March 21, 2005, 01:21:09 PM EST
                 There was a picture of her in this morning's papers up here - (jake123) - (17) - March 21, 2005, 02:41:19 PM EST
                     So she's a pretty corpse - (tuberculosis) - (15) - March 21, 2005, 05:11:18 PM EST
                         point.missed() - (jake123) - (14) - March 22, 2005, 02:59:11 AM EST
                             No, I got it - (tuberculosis) - (13) - March 22, 2005, 02:18:44 PM EST
                                 That's harsh - (bionerd) - (12) - March 22, 2005, 02:28:07 PM EST
                                     They lost her 15 years ago... -NT - (admin) - (10) - March 22, 2005, 02:56:57 PM EST
                                         They are still in 'denial' - (imric) - (9) - March 22, 2005, 03:11:58 PM EST
                                             Re: They are still in 'denial' - (bionerd) - (8) - March 22, 2005, 03:29:37 PM EST
                                                 I can't see the basis of their hope - (warmachine) - (3) - March 22, 2005, 03:59:19 PM EST
                                                     Have you never heard "hope springs eternal"? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - March 22, 2005, 04:47:10 PM EST
                                                         Yep - (warmachine) - March 22, 2005, 05:01:57 PM EST
                                                     Re: I can't see the basis of their hope - (pwhysall) - March 22, 2005, 04:57:54 PM EST
                                                 If it were my child, i'd want to... - (jb4) - March 22, 2005, 06:59:58 PM EST
                                                 I would have put a pillow over their face years ago - (boxley) - March 22, 2005, 07:07:35 PM EST
                                                 Re: They are still in 'denial' - (tuberculosis) - March 22, 2005, 09:21:50 PM EST
                                                 Their need for therapy should supersede her wishes, then? -NT - (Ashton) - March 23, 2005, 07:02:33 AM EST
                                     I have compassion - (tuberculosis) - March 22, 2005, 09:15:38 PM EST
                     I'm not sure what you saw. ~ 10 kB images. - (Another Scott) - March 22, 2005, 10:29:21 PM EST
             No one is lying - (andread) - (4) - March 22, 2005, 03:45:52 PM EST
                 Condolences on your loss. :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - March 22, 2005, 03:47:40 PM EST
                 :-( -NT - (imric) - March 22, 2005, 04:25:07 PM EST
                 Re: No one is lying - (Ashton) - (1) - March 23, 2005, 07:31:23 AM EST
                     Frontline: "Prisoners of Silence." October 19, 1993. - (Another Scott) - March 23, 2005, 08:20:25 AM EST
         L: YOU HAVE THE INTELLECTUAL CAPACITY OF AN ARTICHOKE!!! - (tuberculosis) - (3) - March 22, 2005, 02:19:51 PM EST
             Well, that sucks chunks! -NT - (admin) - March 22, 2005, 02:20:47 PM EST
             That's from my quote of Harlan Ellison - (broomberg) - (1) - March 22, 2005, 09:41:50 PM EST
                 Now that's entertainment -- for about 20 minutes. -NT - (admin) - March 22, 2005, 09:50:14 PM EST

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