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Post #199,292 by ben_tilly 3/17/05 6:19:06 PM Reply	See? Whether it is an error IS ambiguous! I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #199,296 by drewk 3/17/05 6:28:16 PM Reply	I think I know what to do then My first instinct was to say you return errors or throw exceptions, but not both. I wasn't able to articulate a good reason for it though. But your formulation works for me: An exception is a language-specific mechanism for handling errors. If I start from that, there isn't any reason to use both interchangeably. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #199,300 by ben_tilly 3/17/05 6:59:56 PM Reply	Exactly I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

Question about exceptions - (drewk) - (31) - March 16, 2005, 04:22:29 PM EST

Lots of discussions about that - (FuManChu) - (6) - March 16, 2005, 04:38:14 PM EST

That only goes for one kind of exceptions! - (CRConrad) - (1) - March 16, 2005, 04:43:24 PM EST

What does the "checked" mean to you? - (FuManChu) - March 16, 2005, 05:55:46 PM EST

But he's saying that you should use both - (drewk) - (3) - March 16, 2005, 05:18:00 PM EST

My rule of thumb is, - (Arkadiy) - March 16, 2005, 05:40:27 PM EST

Pick one and stick with it. - (admin) - March 16, 2005, 06:04:02 PM EST

You can do both (or more accurately: either) with or without - (FuManChu) - March 16, 2005, 06:05:51 PM EST

Re: Question about exceptions - (JimWeirich) - (23) - March 16, 2005, 07:35:00 PM EST

Nice point about responsibility, but grey areas abound - (FuManChu) - (11) - March 16, 2005, 07:46:02 PM EST

Re: Nice point about responsibility, but grey areas abound - (JimWeirich) - (10) - March 17, 2005, 03:30:15 PM EST

No, we don't - (drewk) - (9) - March 17, 2005, 05:25:32 PM EST

The difference is simple - (ben_tilly) - (8) - March 17, 2005, 05:57:25 PM EST

Problem with that - (drewk) - (4) - March 17, 2005, 06:13:50 PM EST

See? Whether it is an error IS ambiguous! -NT - (ben_tilly) - (2) - March 17, 2005, 06:19:06 PM EST

I think I know what to do then - (drewk) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 06:28:16 PM EST

Exactly -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 17, 2005, 06:59:56 PM EST

Re: Problem with that - (JimWeirich) - March 17, 2005, 11:59:18 PM EST

Thats the sort of logic that makes me wary of exceptions. - (static) - (2) - March 17, 2005, 08:18:40 PM EST

Exceptions are one form of Continuation - (ChrisR) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 10:33:45 PM EST

Icon's generators rely on the failure model. - (static) - March 18, 2005, 01:24:49 AM EST

Disabling assertions - (ChrisR) - (3) - March 16, 2005, 07:52:17 PM EST

That's one of the points he raised - (drewk) - (2) - March 16, 2005, 08:59:04 PM EST

Expense is relative - (ChrisR) - March 16, 2005, 11:52:33 PM EST

Re: That's one of the points he raised - (JayMehaffey) - March 17, 2005, 08:31:12 AM EST

DbC? -NT - (drewk) - (6) - March 16, 2005, 09:32:24 PM EST

Design by Contract - (Yendor) - (5) - March 16, 2005, 10:05:14 PM EST

Not the same thing. - (admin) - (4) - March 16, 2005, 10:31:01 PM EST

That's not strictly Eiffel; - (jake123) - (3) - March 17, 2005, 05:31:51 PM EST

It's built into Eiffel - (admin) - March 17, 2005, 06:01:57 PM EST

It is DESIGN by Contract after all - (JimWeirich) - (1) - March 17, 2005, 11:48:41 PM EST

As you say - (jake123) - March 19, 2005, 03:09:19 AM EST