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And, the 90% really want integration. Makes life easier.
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And what are we doing when the two most powerful nations on earth -- America and Israel -- stomp on the elementary rights of human beings?

-- letter to the editor from W. Ostermeier, Liechtenstein

Collapse Edited by Arkadiy March 14, 2005, 07:35:05 PM EST
Sounds like Gnome
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And what are we doing when the two most powerful nations on earth -- America and Israel -- stomp on the elementary rights of human beings?

-- letter to the editor from W. Ostermeier, Liechtenstein

New No, another disagreement here.
Sounds like Gnome and, the 90% really want integration. Makes life easier.
No, GNOME has a very good abstraction of Privs, it is called "only has the privs of the user using the environment"

Which effectively removes the possibility of system exploits, causing heartache for the whole machine. Restore you User $HOMEDIR and you are golden. Of just re-populate with /etc/skel setup and you'll be working in no time.

The Integration is vastly different in comparison of WindowsXP and GNOME.

First of, the integratoin in GNOME does not have the ability to run as another user, unless specifically configured to run different from default. Second, GNOME is seperate from the GUI, which is seperate from the OS, which runs the GUI outside priv'd ring-0. Which then again operates everything as a file. *NIX does exactly what you tell it. *NIX is also tremendously more predictable when the integration actually is working. Documentation, sure there ar a scribbles here and there. But sometimes that is really all you need. I figure it is better to have the facts rather than REEMS of fluff-in-stuff.

Windows, the integration can be exploited to run as a priv'd user without any configuration required. Second the Integration and the GUI both run in the priv'd Ring-0. Windows running things directly in Ring-0 is dangerous. By default you can do things in Windows you should NEVER be able to do period as any user. Windows second guessses you all the time. Therfore Windows is tough to predict with any certainty. Documentation, sure plethora of Docs that were written by people that are paid by the Line. Yeap. Perfect.
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     Undetectable VX2!!!!!! - (Andrew Grygus) - (39)
         Maybe because it isn't the traditional one? - (folkert) - (3)
             This one was real VX2 . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Is there even room to fit one more nail? ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (1)
                     Depends on how many infections a given machine has. -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Re: Undetectable VX2!!!!!! - (andread) - (3)
             Of course. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Yeap, just like that. - (folkert) - (1)
                     My root post for this thread did refer to . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         Assuming that I am a complete dolt, - (Arkadiy) - (29)
             Rootkit worms for windows abound - (jake123)
             Well, just for starters . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Apart from the first point - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                     Let's see, point #3 - (jake123) - (5)
                         Sounds like the OS/2 WPS (ducks, runs) -NT - (altmann) - (2)
                             Nah, Office has users. - (pwhysall)
                             :) - (jake123)
                         Sounds like Gnome - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                             No, another disagreement here. - (folkert)
                     On our network... - (Steven A S)
             Win32 message service - (inthane-chan) - (18)
                 If you're not an admin, you don't have - (Arkadiy) - (17)
                     Nope. I have a machine at work. - (folkert) - (16)
                         I don't know :( - (Arkadiy) - (13)
                             I don't agree with your assessment. - (folkert) - (12)
                                 That I don't understand - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                                     That's where messaging comes in. - (inthane-chan)
                                     Not like Windows... - (folkert) - (6)
                                         It was quite helpful - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                             It isn't documneted the way you'd think. - (folkert) - (4)
                                                 Well, the only things that grant access to file system - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                     Then how do you explain the fact that it happens? - (folkert) - (2)
                                                         I have no explanation that I am sure of. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                             Thank you. (new thread) - (folkert)
                                     Re: That I don't understand - (andread) - (2)
                                         Are they members of other groups? - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             Domain Users -NT - (andread)
                         There is a way. - (static) - (1)
                             It's LocalSystem - (Arkadiy)
         VX2 on 2 servers - (andread)

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