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New Then how do you explain the fact that it happens?
Without escalation of Privs?

And, the fact of the matter... not that they by-pass them, are they even checked? By assumption or by method something has to be getting around it.

And the Local Policy over rides the others. So if the Citrix thinger you and andread are talking about, it doesn't amtter what DS groups memberships. It ain't supposed to be able to do that. But does.
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[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"]
No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
Expand Edited by folkert March 16, 2005, 11:35:43 AM EST
New I have no explanation that I am sure of.
I think you don't either.

My guess is a security hole, a bug.

Your guess is an inherent deficiency of architecture.

Neither of us is in a position to prove our guesses. You are in a somewhat better position to investigate - you actually have logs and what not from your co-worker's breakage. But, unless you understand _exactly_ how the malware gained access to the protected areas of the system, we still don't know for sure.
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New Thank you. (new thread)
Created as new thread #199000 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=199000|Thank you.]
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[link|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"]
No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
     Undetectable VX2!!!!!! - (Andrew Grygus) - (39)
         Maybe because it isn't the traditional one? - (folkert) - (3)
             This one was real VX2 . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Is there even room to fit one more nail? ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (1)
                     Depends on how many infections a given machine has. -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Re: Undetectable VX2!!!!!! - (andread) - (3)
             Of course. -NT - (Andrew Grygus) - (2)
                 Yeap, just like that. - (folkert) - (1)
                     My root post for this thread did refer to . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         Assuming that I am a complete dolt, - (Arkadiy) - (29)
             Rootkit worms for windows abound - (jake123)
             Well, just for starters . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (8)
                 Apart from the first point - (Arkadiy) - (7)
                     Let's see, point #3 - (jake123) - (5)
                         Sounds like the OS/2 WPS (ducks, runs) -NT - (altmann) - (2)
                             Nah, Office has users. - (pwhysall)
                             :) - (jake123)
                         Sounds like Gnome - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                             No, another disagreement here. - (folkert)
                     On our network... - (Steven A S)
             Win32 message service - (inthane-chan) - (18)
                 If you're not an admin, you don't have - (Arkadiy) - (17)
                     Nope. I have a machine at work. - (folkert) - (16)
                         I don't know :( - (Arkadiy) - (13)
                             I don't agree with your assessment. - (folkert) - (12)
                                 That I don't understand - (Arkadiy) - (11)
                                     That's where messaging comes in. - (inthane-chan)
                                     Not like Windows... - (folkert) - (6)
                                         It was quite helpful - (Arkadiy) - (5)
                                             It isn't documneted the way you'd think. - (folkert) - (4)
                                                 Well, the only things that grant access to file system - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                                     Then how do you explain the fact that it happens? - (folkert) - (2)
                                                         I have no explanation that I am sure of. - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                             Thank you. (new thread) - (folkert)
                                     Re: That I don't understand - (andread) - (2)
                                         Are they members of other groups? - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             Domain Users -NT - (andread)
                         There is a way. - (static) - (1)
                             It's LocalSystem - (Arkadiy)
         VX2 on 2 servers - (andread)

This is why I am in therapy.
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