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Post #196,891

by imric

3/2/05 6:56:50 AM

Oh, man.

I feel for you. I hate COBOL. It was designed so that it can be easily read by non-programmers, maybe, but only if it's well written.

Damn.

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Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

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As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #196,943

by broomberg

3/2/05 6:45:05 PM

No it wasn't.

Imagine hundreds of special cases like this:

\n090396* JJW SKIP RECORDS PER MEMO OF 08-21\n           IF IN-RECORD-TYPE = '40' AND\n              IN-ITEM-NAME = 'TRVGENNOPHPH' AND\n             (IN-MEMBER-NUMBER = '81313973  ' OR '81127887  ' OR\n                                 '81127817  ' OR '81127815  ' OR\n                                 '81127789  ' OR '81127888  ' OR\n                                 '81127462  ' OR '81127101  ' OR\n                                 '81127100  ' OR '81127017  ' OR\n                                 '81127016  ' OR '81127015  ' OR\n                                 '81126833  ' OR '80831411  ' OR\n                                 '80831410  ' OR '80831409  ' OR\n                                 '80831408  ' OR '80831407  ' OR\n                                 '79605765  ' OR '71823026  ' OR\n                                 '70313054  ' OR '69262548  ' OR\n                                 '78644991  ')\n                 ADD 1                 TO WS-SKIPA-COUNT\n                 GO TO 220-READ-NEXT.\n\n

Post #196,945

by imric

3/2/05 6:51:39 PM

Again, I hate COBOL.

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Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #196,999

by Arkadiy

3/3/05 9:33:43 AM

Oh, that's not COBOL. I can write that kind of code in Java.

Would you like fries with that?

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Post #197,004

by imric

3/3/05 9:49:49 AM

That KIND of code, sure.

It was still written in COBOL. I can tell, it sent a shiver down my spine.

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Imric's Tips for Living

Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.

Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.

Post #197,000

by Another Scott

3/3/05 9:37:31 AM

That looks like some of my QuickBASIC code. :-/

Post #198,195

by gdaustin

3/12/05 11:06:12 AM

Now I see why it's a bear to maintain....

Hardcoded values in programs.

Post #198,199

by broomberg

3/12/05 11:55:47 AM

Now???

Does that mean you've been coding stuff like that, just not quite as bad?

Post #198,201

by gdaustin

3/12/05 12:11:41 PM

No.. I stopped coding like that 10 years ago....

when I had to maintain someone's crap that was written like that.

But you're right, you have to go through it carefully, analyzing all the pieces and figuring out what you can "safely" extract. It takes months (or years if it's big). But the last time I did one like that was 1997, before Internet time.

I've recently signed up for a deathmarch. - (broomberg) - (27) - March 1, 2005, 10:39:53 PM EST

Luck! I think you'll need it. :-( -NT - (Another Scott) - March 1, 2005, 10:46:46 PM EST

reverse engineer - (boxley) - (1) - March 1, 2005, 10:49:55 PM EST

HEHEHEH - (broomberg) - March 1, 2005, 11:05:12 PM EST

I know you like pain - (ben_tilly) - March 1, 2005, 11:09:21 PM EST

Been there - (tuberculosis) - (1) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:44:44 AM EDT

I did that once. - (static) - March 3, 2005, 01:34:19 AM EST

volunteered for this? - (cforde) - (1) - March 2, 2005, 02:57:56 AM EST

Not exactly - (broomberg) - March 2, 2005, 06:43:12 AM EST

Parse Error - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 2, 2005, 03:43:03 AM EST

Deathmatch? - (broomberg) - March 2, 2005, 06:32:27 AM EST

Oh, man. - (imric) - (8) - March 2, 2005, 06:56:50 AM EST

No it wasn't. - (broomberg) - (7) - March 2, 2005, 06:45:05 PM EST

Again, I hate COBOL. -NT - (imric) - (2) - March 2, 2005, 06:51:39 PM EST

Oh, that's not COBOL. I can write that kind of code in Java. - (Arkadiy) - (1) - March 3, 2005, 09:33:43 AM EST

That KIND of code, sure. - (imric) - March 3, 2005, 09:49:49 AM EST

That looks like some of my QuickBASIC code. :-/ -NT - (Another Scott) - March 3, 2005, 09:37:31 AM EST

Now I see why it's a bear to maintain.... - (gdaustin) - (2) - March 12, 2005, 11:06:12 AM EST

Now??? - (broomberg) - (1) - March 12, 2005, 11:55:47 AM EST

No.. I stopped coding like that 10 years ago.... - (gdaustin) - March 12, 2005, 12:11:41 PM EST

Need some help? - (jbrabeck) - (7) - March 3, 2005, 07:20:58 AM EST

*Can* never be, or *hopefully* will never be? - (drewk) - (5) - March 3, 2005, 11:51:28 AM EST

I'll keep it simple - (jbrabeck) - (4) - March 3, 2005, 05:10:42 PM EST

bbb ... b ... b .. bb ... bbbbb ... - (drewk) - (2) - March 3, 2005, 12:26:26 PM EST

It is like this: - (folkert) - March 3, 2005, 01:04:40 PM EST

That's plural... Miracles. Greg got it in his post. -NT - (jbrabeck) - March 3, 2005, 05:11:39 PM EST

Send an email to the admin - (broomberg) - March 3, 2005, 06:21:51 PM EST

Disaster Recovery - (gdaustin) - March 12, 2005, 12:07:57 PM EST

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