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New GIVE IT A FREAKIN BREAK YERSELF!!!
How much "additional security measures" would it have taken to properly screen for box cutters (not Box cutters) ferchrissakes. the only thing it would have taken is hiring something resembling competent screeners how did something other than sit on their lardasses and collect a paycheck. The FAA stuff you refer to was attempted empire building. Nothing more. Nothing less.

But as we all know, Empire trumps Competence any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Puh-fukkin-LEEEEZE!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New They didn't use box cutters.
[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=149598|#149598]. They used knives that were legal to have on the planes.

More screeners wouldn't have helped that part of the problem. The problem was the actions of the hijackers. If pocket knives were forbidden, they would have used scissors. If scissors were forbidden they would have used ...

Before 9/11/2001, if a group of people was determined to do damage to passengers and crew and take over a plane in the US, there was little that could have been done to prevent them with the regulations that were in place. The rules didn't covers such a contingency. They were designed to prevent handguns and explosives from getting on board.

Nice rant though. ;-)

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
New Two points....
First off, regardless of whether it was boxcutters/permissionable knives (and aren't boxcutters utilities knives and permissionable anyway?) fiberglass knives and other weapons exist (and have been sold) that would never been picked up by metal detectors.

Second, it wasn't that there wasn't much that they could do, it was that the SOP at the time was to go along with hijackers because they held the passengers and plane as a valuable object. Even though there had been previous attempts to use the plane itself as a weapon, such attacks had really not been successful and were therefore not considered.

New You're Welcome! ;-)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

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