Cars: Now & Next

1/26/05 9:34:42 AM

1/26/05 10:42:17 AM

Mine/hers.

[link|http://z.iwethey.org/forums/render/content/show?contentid=124780|2004 Jetta TDI Wagon]. I'll have it for a while. :-)

My wife has a 1993 Corolla, 1.8 liter, 5 speed. In the not too distant future we'll probably replace it with a hybrid Toyota or Honda. I'm still skeptical of the mileage claims (they're good in stop-and-go driving due to the regeneration and engine-cutoff when stopped, but highway driving doesn't see those benefits), and the Prius is awfully funky, but she's leaning that way so that's probably what we'll get. Mainly for the lower emissions. The Corolla's been a good car and has ~ 180,000 miles on it. (It's only problems have been plastic door handles breaking in winter, some other plastic bits breaking, the engine valve seals leaking, needing a new alternator every few years, and some noisy wheel bearings and/or C-V joints.)

[link|http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?section_id=15&article_id=8427&page_number=1|CandD] had a comparo of 4 high-mileage cars in September. The TDI didn't do very well, mainly (I think) because they used an automatic rather than a manual. VW's automatics seem to eat 3-4+ mpg. The Prius got 52 city/40 highway in their tests. I've gotten 52 mpg highway in my TDI (330 miles at 61 mph), ~ 49 mpg at 65 mph average in a 500 mile trip. I always get 42-44 mpg commuting to work.

[edit: 2004, not 1994 Jetta. Thanks Alex.]

Cheers,
Scott.

Edited by Another Scott Jan. 26, 2005, 10:42:17 AM EST

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Post #191,680

by a6l6e6x

1/26/05 10:16:44 AM

So, that would be a *2004* VW Jetta TDI wagon...

and not 1994. :)

Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

Post #191,681

by a6l6e6x

1/26/05 10:27:29 AM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

1998 Volvo S70 perhaps to be replaced by "void" as my wife and I very seldom need to go to two different places. The motor home, to be picked up soon, could serve as the back-up vehicle. But, at almost 27 feet in length and over 8 feet in width, is not an agile easily parked beast.

Other car is a 1998 Toyota Sienna minivan, a most useful vehicle form factor.

Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

Post #191,683

by Silverlock

1/26/05 10:29:52 AM

Shoe leather express

I don't currently own a car. Relying on public transportation and saving a metric buttload of money. I am thinking about getting back into the driving game though. Any midsize convertible would do fine but I would like to find a 1967 Ford Mustang in *decent* condition.

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Post #191,695

by FuManChu

1/26/05 11:21:41 AM

Good for you!

Save $, lose #

Post #191,701

by Silverlock

1/26/05 11:57:04 AM

re: lose #

Down 3 belt notches since last year at this time.

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Post #191,684

1/26/05 10:31:03 AM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Mine - 2k1 Mitsu Galant. Will be driving it till wheels fall off...then I'll think about replacement.

Family - 1996 Dodge Conversion (Orca the Killer Whale as named by Imric). o be replaced in the next month with either a Hyundai Santa Fe or Tucson...depending on wife and price.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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Post #191,689

by Yendor

1/26/05 11:10:33 AM

Eh?

...depending on wife and price.

Depending on which wife you have at the time of transaction? ;-)

-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania

Post #191,713

1/26/05 1:06:30 PM

Eh?

Always buy from the existing lot stock (better negotiability)..so wife has to like it and I have to be able to hit the numnber based on option packages, etc...

Although the other is a possibilty I suppose, as the work hours get longer and the stress factor goes up:-/

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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Post #191,685

by SpiceWare

1/26/05 10:40:48 AM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Now - [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/Vehicles/dcp_0108|2002 Honda S2000]

Next - don't know, have had current vehicle less than 3 years.

Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

Post #194,448

by SpiceWare

2/13/05 2:48:24 PM

2005 S2000

wasn't planning on it, but I got an offer that was too good to refuse.

The engine increased from 2.0 to 2.2 liter, though the horse power remains 240. Can't open it up yet, have to put 600 miles on it first. The rear tires are wider and I've noticed that it grips the road better.

I like the new Rocket Engine looking [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/Vehicles/DCP_0429|tail lights]. [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/Vehicles/DCP_0430|Head lights] look futuristic too. [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/Vehicles/DCP_0431|Interior] is roomier, the doors were redone to give you more elbow room. Stereo puts out more, I used to have to crank it all the way with top down and now I can get by with the volume at 75%.

Darrell Spice, Jr.                      [link|http://spiceware.org/gallery/ArtisticOverpass|Artistic Overpass]\n[link|http://www.spiceware.org/|SpiceWare] - We don't do Windows, it's too much of a chore

Post #194,449

2/13/05 4:32:17 PM

Life is tough, isn't it? ;-) Enjoy it!

Post #191,690

by inthane-chan

1/26/05 11:11:34 AM

1/26/05 11:13:10 AM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

I drive an '82 Volvo station wagon I picked up for pocket change. My wife drives a '98 Volvo S70, because I wanted her to have something safe+reliable.

My next car: No idea, but it will be stick, use diesel, and it will be a cheap-ass piece of shit. I rarely drive anyways.

My wife's next car: No idea, but something less pricey most likely - maybe a Toyota of some flavor or another. Hopefully diesel.

"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."

Edited by inthane-chan Jan. 26, 2005, 11:13:10 AM EST

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Post #191,697

by drewk

1/26/05 11:28:35 AM

Me and wife

Me: 2002 Chevy Cavalier
Drive til it dies, then hope there's a cheap hybrid available. Or better yet, have a job near public transportation and not need a car. I'd like that better.

Her: 1995 Lincoln Continental
Probably replace it this summer. Will be looking for clean, low miles Ford Crown Victoria / Mercury Grand Marquis. But something with less electronica in the cockpit.

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Post #191,705

by daemon

1/26/05 12:29:07 PM

hmm, how many miles on the lincoln?

which model? V8 or V6? might be interested
regards,
daemon

Post #191,708

by pwhysall

1/26/05 12:48:29 PM

Never buy a car from a friend

That way, they remain your friend.

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1/26/05 1:01:40 PM

Depends on the friend

For example, if the friend is honest and supplies every single detail about what's been done to the car, (i.e. I have a notebook with a receipt or paper on EVERY SINGLE thing done to mine), then there's nothing wrong with buying a car from a friend. It's the ones that have no paperwork or repair history that you need to worry about. ;)

Brenda

"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr

Post #191,710

1/26/05 1:03:17 PM

Opposite experience. YMMV. (Guffaw :-)

I've bought 2 cars from a friend. One was his (it was given to him), one was one he worked on (a customer's car). The car that was his was great. $75 for a 1966 Olds F-85 330 CID V8 (2 barrel, single exhaust, no A/C), 2 speed automatic. Wonderful car. It needed a battery.

The cutomer car (1986 Olds 98, 3.8 liter, FWD) was OK but became a money pit (mainly because it was driven a *lot*). It finally died at about 350,000 miles. So it wasn't too bad either really.

It's caveat emptor when buying cars, even when buying them from a friend. But it doesn't have to cause problems if the buyer knows what he's getting.

Cheers,
Scott.

Post #191,716

by daemon

1/26/05 1:13:31 PM

he's far enough away I cant get at him :-)

certain cars have attributes that make them fairly safe to purchase if certain conditions are met. Lincolns are one of them.
regards,
daemon

Post #191,834

by drewk

1/26/05 10:18:02 PM

Will keep you in mind

But I doubt you'll want it. Or rather that you'll want to pay what we'll want to sell it for. It's still pretty low miles for the age, and we want to get enough to step up to the next larger model without picking up a monthly payment.

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Post #191,714

1/26/05 1:08:34 PM

Okay, my turn

Current car: 1 1968 Plymouth Fury Commando V-8. 383 Engine, 2 door, named Sapphire.

When I'll replace her? I plan to keep her until it's no longer feasible to repair her. :) I've had her since 1987, purchased with 65,000 original miles on her.

Car to replace her with: 2002 Pontiac Grand Am GT named Galaxy. Already own it, in fact, it's John's car. He's promised me that if Sapphire ever dies completely, I can have Galaxy. Galaxy came about because he asked me to look for a car I would like to replace Sapphire with (at one of the points where we thought she wasn't repairable). I fell in love with the Pontiac Grand AM GT in 2000. 2 years later, John's GEO Prism died, and he purchased a Pontiac Grand Am GT 2002..... I was in heaven, I have both my old car, and the one I want someday in the garage... and I get to drive Galaxy on weekends and times John is off work!

Why I would replace Sapphire with Galaxy? Because I wanted a car that felt as much like my 383 V8 car as possible, and the GT won that honor. When I test drove the GT I was very happy with the feel of the car, and the power under the hood. I wouldn't have known it was a V-6, it acts like a V-8.

Brenda

"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr

Post #191,717

by daemon

1/26/05 1:15:03 PM

might want to look at the new magnums

claim is they really haul ash
regards,
daemon

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1/26/05 1:21:27 PM

1/26/05 1:25:20 PM

Ah yes, the infamous Magnum

I was in love with the original Dodge Magnum XE, which came out in 1978, man that was an awesome car. I still have the pictures and article from the Car & Driver article they published when it came out.

When I heard they were gonna remake the Dodge Magnum, I was elated, even anticipating it's release, until I saw it. Sadly, the new design of the Magnum pales against the original... I took one look at it and just couldn't believe it. I imagine it still hauls ass, I hear it has a lot of power, but I also have to like how the car looks, and the Pontiac GT meets both of those standards for me.

I also once wanted (between the Magnum and the GT), a Dodge Daytona. Those cars rocked too, but I never owned one. Got to test drive a couple though!

Brenda

Edit: P.S. If they had offered it in something other than Wagon Form, the new Dodge Magnum might have had a chance with me, but in wagon form it looks like a short Limo. Bleah. And the old-style front grille looks ridiculous on it as well.

"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr

Edited by Nightowl Jan. 26, 2005, 01:25:20 PM EST

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Post #191,723

by pwhysall

1/26/05 1:34:47 PM

Why, has he got one?

Post #191,729

1/26/05 1:42:03 PM

Hehehe, I almost said that too!

But I thought better of it. ;)

Brenda

"The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr

Post #191,718

by dlevitt

1/26/05 1:16:55 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Now
My daily driver:
1989 Ford [Mazda] Probe GT - with enough miles on it to go to the moon. Its still a great commuter / interstate cruiser vehicle [as long as the snow is less than a foot deep]. Its over twice its design life, and things are breaking that there are no replacement parts available [ABS, pop up headlights].

My wife's daily driver:
2004 Ford Ranger 2WD, extended cab - 50,000 miles left on the warranty. We moved all our stuff [except the baby grand] from the old house to the new house with the little truck [dozens of trips last summer].

Awaiting repair:
1974 [at least in part] Ford Bronco [flex plate and starter are not cooperating] - body is crap, lots of mechanical upgrades, reccaro seats.

Next:
The Probe is a dificult act to follow - something with four doors, reasonable performance, reasonable economy - probably not a new vehicle.
Candidates include Mazda 6 [Mazdaspeed varient], Lincon LS, Ford 500, Ford Escape/Mazda Tribute, or another baby SUV [Subaru? Hundai?]

Post #191,724

by jbrabeck

1/26/05 1:35:40 PM

OT: dlevitt - Where are you located?

A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

Post #191,998

by dlevitt

1/27/05 2:41:56 PM

Re: OT: dlevitt - Where are you located?

Long Island

My commute is from south of Brookhaven Lab into Garden City.

[A friend has it worse - she needs to go from the hamptons to JFK to fix airplanes]

Post #192,046

by jbrabeck

1/27/05 10:25:59 PM

Old client was dlevitt

From Omaha. Guess you can't be him, unless you're from Omaha back in the early 80's

A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

Post #191,731

by flatboy2016

1/26/05 1:47:24 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Now: 1995 Jeep Grand Cherokee
Next: I agree with Yendor. Time to wean off of the black stuff that comes out of the ground and causes so many conflicts half a world away. A couple of routes:

Hybrid: Partial weaning
Accord Hybrid

Diesel: potential move to biodiesel (Yes, I want to recycle french fry grease ;-))
Jeep Liberty Diesel
VW Golf Diesel

bob

Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has-Margaret Mead

Post #191,739

by admin

1/26/05 2:40:08 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Me: '99 Ford Taurus, automatic, natch
Wife: '99 Ford Windstar (complete coincidence - I bought the Taurus two years ago from a neighbor, and the Windstar was purchased from a friend of my Dad who owns a dealership)
Garage: '89 Ford Mustang LX

The Windstar will probably be replaced with a Honda or Toyota mini-van when it dies, which will probably be a good ways off (~90K miles now). I don't put enough miles on the Taurus to worry about it replacing at all; it has about 40K right now.

Automatic vs. manual: more women drive manuals than men. I forget where I saw that, but it was recent. My wife is not one, and since she has to be able to drive the Taurus as well, it's an automatic.

The Mustang is manual, of course.

Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."

Post #191,742

by tuberculosis

1/26/05 2:47:44 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

#(*$(#&(#&#(&(@ Cash wasting junk piles.

Now - '89 Volvo 240 something (4 door boxy sedan - chalky red) - purchased on ebay.

Next - When I have to abandon this one, we'll see what else comes up on ebay. However, I've had decent luck buying swedish cars post depreciation and driving them to death.

"Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect"   --Mark Twain

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them."   --Albert Einstein

"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses."   --George W. Bush

Post #191,810

by a6l6e6x

1/26/05 8:35:13 PM

Had a friend in NY that had that philosophy on cars.

buying cars post depreciation and driving them to death

We used to joke that every time he filled it up, he doubled the value of his car.

Alex

The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell

Post #191,815

1/26/05 8:52:08 PM

Ha! :-)

Post #191,833

by drewk

1/26/05 10:15:26 PM

You have a boat, and talk about *cars* being money pits

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Post #191,865

by tuberculosis

1/27/05 12:35:21 AM

How do you think I afford the boat?

Post #191,756

by Meerkat

1/26/05 3:47:33 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Now: 1994 Nissan Bluebird SSS (Almost just like [link|http://www.tucarro.com.co/anuncios/carros/bff-585.html|this] except mine's an Auto. And right-hand drive. Am much in love with the head-up display in this age of speed cameras everywhere.

Next: Either a new Mini (esp once the 6-speed auto version gets released this year), a Citroen C4 2-door, maybe even a Holden Monaro. (5.7 litres of environmentally unsound V8, but since I'm lucky to use the car once a week, it could be worse).

Why? For any of three of the above,it's because I only drive once or twice a week. So when I do, I want something I can enjoy.

When? Maybe this year, but the Bluebird's still going pretty happily despite turning 11 this year.

Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.

Post #191,760

1/26/05 3:58:46 PM

Vroom vroom. :-)

Post #191,782

by Steve Lowe

1/26/05 4:58:23 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Me, 1999 chevy pickup ext cab with a topper. No plans to replace, it works well.
Wife, 1997 Dodge Grand Caravan. No real plans to replace, but she rather fancies the Jeep Liberty that my brother just bought..so I'm waiting....

Also, have a 66 Chevelle SS396 in the garage that's mostly disassembled, and I've got my eye on an 89 vette with a blown motor that I might end up getting for free. :)

--
Steve

Post #191,785

by scoenye

1/26/05 5:48:01 PM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Now: 94 Mustang GT
Next: not planning on replacing it.
Why not: I like it! Besides, I already added a 2k2 Ducati 748 to the collection.
Oh, and before someone asks: I ride the train in the winter.

Post #192,078

by Ashton

1/28/05 6:00:17 AM

Oooohhh..

Another biker!

And with good taste.. lovely ride. And BRAKES. And Italian.
(Pity, my back wouldn't much like the 0-100 and stopped in 15 sec stuff. Probably also for the best, that.)

Guy I bought my car from had a new ZX-13? 14? whatever it was up to in '02. But a ricer isn't in the same chassis class as yours, even if 190 mph is almost enough of a Statement. I guess.

Was thumbing a cycle mag recently; seems one can now spend $250K USD for certain specials. Nutzo - might as well toss in another 150K and go for the Bugatti. (The 99% merely get to look at what the bored 1% does with all their winnings: fill air conditioned garages with dozens of Titanium things. Show to friends.) And then you die.

At least you Euro folk have some places to play at 300 kph :-)

Ashton
Vrooom

Post #192,211

by scoenye

1/29/05 8:31:14 AM

And a nice place it is too...

Ducati is kind enough to rent the Spa-Francorchamps F1 track at least once a year. Marvellous place. Even the bigger bikes will run out of legs on the front straight, and those who dare can do the same through the last three turns.

The ZX is up to 12 now. I did have a ZX-11 for a couple of years. No class whatsoever, but an incredible sensation when you opened it up. Too bad it could only do it in a straight line. Somewhere in time I ended up taking a track class and decided I liked the corners better. So the big lug went out and I switched to supersports. Plenty of performance for the streets and much easier on the tires...

Post #192,287

by Ashton

1/30/05 7:39:55 PM

Re: And a nice place it is too...

Indeed.. it's the swervery which produces transcendent states of the timeless kind, brings out all the nuances of that inner ear sensor and other poetic things. It's ballet, pure and simple; the other is just Apache dance thuggery ;-)

Dragstrip stuff is just F=MA - and after Col. Stapp's little 500ish mph-to-0 stop on that rocket sled: It's Been Done.

As I mentioned here long ago.. having been briefly *lent* a pukka amateur racer's Norton ride, to try Ramsey Hairpin and environs on the {bawll} Isle Of Man (the day prior to the TT) ... that's as close as I've been to being ON a real course.

(No wait-- there was a demo ride with some cohorts, eons ago (before Muricans had the foggiest WTF a 'TT' might be) -- and the prize was: to take one Diana Dors around for a 'victory' lap; alas.. a "cohort" cheated! I was 2nd and missed becoming ever-so-briefly, a Dors sandwich. Oh well.)

Trust you will.. leave the 2-wheel drifts to the folks who got their first bike at age 2 and never learned what Fear is. I don't think one can undo that, once learned.

Cheers

Post #191,800

by static

1/26/05 6:37:30 PM

I've already started getting environmental. I hope.

Now: 2000 Mitsubishi CE Lancer 1.8l manual sedan with not many toys. It's got about 75,000 kms on the clock. I bought it with 36,000. I traded in an '89 3.8l V6 VN Commodore. The fuel economy on the Lancer is quite a bit better.

Next: No idea. When: Perhaps in 8 months. Why: To keep reasonably current. I don't particularly want the Lancer to depreciate too far. Currently I'd like a Prius but they are *way* too expensive right now. It'll have to wait.

My fianc\ufffde bought a new Nissan X-Trail Ti about 4 months ago, with my help. It's got ~5300 on the clock at the moment. I'm not sure about the fuel economy; I think it's halfway between my Lancer and my Commodore. She plans to trade-up in a few years, probably to something similar, again to stay current.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed

Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

Post #191,801

by pwhysall

1/26/05 6:41:14 PM

Like most SUVs...

...the X-Trail has fairly crappy fuel economy, unless you go for the diesel version, in which case you're trading off poke for fuel economy.

Quoted figures for the 3L petrol are 17-31MPG, and I bet you do significantly worse in the real world.

Post #191,803

by static

1/26/05 7:02:24 PM

The government sticker put it at 9.8L/100km.

This was quite a bit better than all other vehicles of that style. A bit of googling shows me that's about 31mpg. I know that's an optimistic figure. A bit back-of-the envelope scratching couple with my memory and I think we're probably getting around 12L/100km.

The choice of a car like the X-Trail was because of the seating position. She has a lower back injury that isn't operable and needs the type of seating in a car that something like the X-Trail provides.

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed

Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

Post #191,853

by folkert

1/26/05 11:12:40 PM

You have to ask, don't you?

2002 Mitsubishi Lancer OZ
2000 Olds Bravada
1995 Dodge Neon
1987 Olds Cutlass Supreme 2dr
1984 Olds Cutlass Calais
1969 Olds 442

My next car?

too choose...

Could be one of these:

Mitsubishi Lancer Evo (7 or 8 new or used)
Subaru WRX (new or used)
Saab 900 Turbo (used) or 9-3 (new or used)

No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]

Post #191,908

by ben_tilly

1/27/05 8:25:00 AM

I'm boring

1997 Subaru station wagon.

Next is something else with room for cargo and kid.

When is likely this summer depending on whether my wife's residency winds up with both of us having commutes.

Cheers,
Ben

I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)

Post #191,912

by lister

1/27/05 8:41:46 AM

Car Now and Wishful Thinking Next

Now: '99 Cougar V6

Wishful thinking next: Nissan 350Z

Mmmmmmm yummy! Sounds nice too. A guy down my street has one that I pass by frequently. If it wasn't for a condo purchase I'd seriously consider getting it. *sigh*

lister

Post #191,914

1/27/05 8:54:41 AM

Re: Cars: Now & Next

Bum brother in law notified of delivery date on [link|http://www.lotuscars.com/elise-3-1024.jpg|this beauty.]

Getting the Burnt Orange that displays on the [link|http://www.lotuscars.com|website].

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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1/27/05 9:18:58 AM

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