How about a civics test?

No worries, the random reliance on actual vote counts has already been corrected for!

And wrt economic power vs military power, I think we need to look at things a little differently... the civics-lesson approach tells us that we are the most powerful and free country in the world, and that we should continue to do good, that our best interests are to lead the world into a better era.

BUT THAT'S OLD THINKING. That's optimistic, rose-colored, weak-kneed, bleeding-heart, depending-on-others, limp-wristed pap.

You gotta think CRISIS. You gotta think stingy. You gotta think mean. You gotta think Last chance. You gotta think Nothing to lose.

We only have a few good years of dominance left, are rapidly heading towards irrelevance, and the nice-guy civics-lesson good-world-citizen approach is only going to accelerate the process of landing us into the also-ran bin, while handing a nice working productive world over to China. Once that happens, we'll have nothing to show for it and no way to get out of it *forever*.

By stirring things up the way we have been these past years (and wait -- there's more!), we may create chances for a catastrophic success somewhere, and if we still lose, at least we'll have poisoned the well so whoever takes over will have a hard time of it -- and who knows, leave ourselves a little leverage to work with.

Giovanni

Post #190,563 by mmoffitt 1/18/05 8:15:48 AM Reply	How about a civics test? Achieving the age of 18 chronologically seems to me to be an insufficient credential for contributing to the decision of whom sits atop the world's only remaining superpower (wrt militia, of course. We are rapidly becoming an "also ran" in economic power). bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #190,570 by Another Scott 1/18/05 9:21:47 AM Reply	Who writes the test? Who judges it?
Post #190,633 by Ashton 1/18/05 5:15:57 PM Reply	moi?
Post #190,656 by mmoffitt 1/18/05 6:40:24 PM Reply	^^^^ I'd be comfortable with that. bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #190,657 by inthane-chan 1/18/05 6:41:16 PM Reply	And when he passes on... ...or becomes too mentally feeble to continue updating it - who then? And then who? And then who? And then who? "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #190,659 by mmoffitt 1/18/05 6:45:15 PM Reply	Me. Then, my kids. Then, ... we launch all the nukes and leave it to Gawd. [image\|/forums/images/warning.png\|0\|This is sarcasm...] bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #190,760 by Arkadiy 1/19/05 10:26:13 AM Reply	Of course you would But it doesn't scale. -- - I was involuntarily self-promoted into management. [link\|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484\|Richard Stallman]
Post #190,765 by mmoffitt 1/19/05 10:42:41 AM Reply	It should ;0) bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #190,774 by GBert 1/19/05 11:36:08 AM Reply	Civics test would be counterproductive! No worries, the random reliance on actual vote counts has already been corrected for! And wrt economic power vs military power, I think we need to look at things a little differently... the civics-lesson approach tells us that we are the most powerful and free country in the world, and that we should continue to do good, that our best interests are to lead the world into a better era. BUT THAT'S OLD THINKING. That's optimistic, rose-colored, weak-kneed, bleeding-heart, depending-on-others, limp-wristed pap. You gotta think CRISIS. You gotta think stingy. You gotta think mean. You gotta think Last chance. You gotta think Nothing to lose. We only have a few good years of dominance left, are rapidly heading towards irrelevance, and the nice-guy civics-lesson good-world-citizen approach is only going to accelerate the process of landing us into the also-ran bin, while handing a nice working productive world over to China. Once that happens, we'll have nothing to show for it and no way to get out of it forever. By stirring things up the way we have been these past years (and wait -- there's more!), we may create chances for a catastrophic success somewhere, and if we still lose, at least we'll have poisoned the well so whoever takes over will have a hard time of it -- and who knows, leave ourselves a little leverage to work with. Giovanni Have whatever values you have. That's what America is for. You don't need George Bush for that.
Post #190,883 by daemon 1/19/05 8:17:44 PM Reply	read the voting rights act of 1964 been there, done that and it didnt work the first time regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]

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