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New Because your 'obvious answer' is wrong.
Think it through.

What happens when a majority of a group is treated as second-class citizens. What eventually happens to the minority that is treating them that way? What happens when that minority starts treating them with contempt (as has invariably happened throughout history)?

Your way is the way that ends in tyranny and opression. Bloodshed and death. 6000 years of history illustrates this. The republican democracy must devolve to the form of government you ADVOCATE before this happens. Or at least that's the way it's worked through history.

You will not learn, will you. You want to repeat. What was it you said? "Only atheists should be allowed to hold government positions"? Only your clique should rule? Oh - for the good of all. Nobody's heard THAT old saw before, have they?

You are horribly, enthusiastically and virulently wrong.
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Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
Collapse Edited by imric Jan. 14, 2005, 10:52:24 PM EST
Because your 'obvious answer' is wrong.
Think it through.

What happens when a majority of a group is treated as second-class citizens. What eventually happens to the minority that is treating them that way?

Your way is the way that ends in tyranny and opression. 6000 years of history illustrates this.

You will not learn, will you. You want to repeat. What was it you said? "Only atheists should be allowed to hold government positions"? Only your clique should rule? Oh - for the good of all. Nobody's heard THAT old saw before, have they?

You are horribly, enthusiastically and virulently wrong.

[link|http://forfree.sytes.net|
]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New FWIW, I am not an aetheist.
So, you're little "only like you" thing holds as much water as the rest of your argument.
bcnu,
Mikem

Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer.
(Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
New ROFL
My argument stands. It doesn't matter if you are an atheist or not; you are still advocating that classes be legislated into society, based on 'correct' thoughts.

And if you can't see what's wrong with that logically, morally, and historically, there is no use continuing this discussion - you are squeezing your eyes shut as tightly as any neocon.
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]
Imric's Tips for Living
  • Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
  • Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
  • Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.


Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
     ps. Should you feel the need to respond to this - (imric) - (60)
         The differences between us are not that great. - (mmoffitt) - (59)
             I think it's a chasm. Almost insuperable. - (imric) - (58)
                 Okay, let's simplify. - (mmoffitt) - (5)
                     Because your 'obvious answer' is wrong. - (imric) - (2)
                         FWIW, I am not an aetheist. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                             ROFL - (imric)
                     Sounds to me like you've got 2 groups. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                         I don't need to flesh it out further. - (mmoffitt)
                 "The tyranny of the majority" must be fought at all costs. - (a6l6e6x) - (51)
                     And it is SO much worse than the ordinary kind, right? - (imric) - (50)
                         Well, we could start with having a similar # voting machines - (Ashton) - (49)
                             Not fine; in danger. - (imric) - (48)
                                 Too late? We'll see. - (mmoffitt) - (47)
                                     And you are arguing - (imric) - (46)
                                         Mebbe you should answer his question - (jb4) - (45)
                                             <sigh> - (imric) - (44)
                                                 Or even... - (Another Scott) - (13)
                                                     Err, look at your stuff from a different angle. - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                                                         A majority isn't all. - (Another Scott) - (11)
                                                             Not a bad idea... - (jb4)
                                                             How about a civics test? - (mmoffitt) - (9)
                                                                 Who writes the test? Who judges it? -NT - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                                     moi? -NT - (Ashton) - (5)
                                                                         ^^^^ I'd be comfortable with that. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (4)
                                                                             And when he passes on... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                                                 Me. Then, my kids. Then, ... - (mmoffitt)
                                                                             Of course you would - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                                                                 It should ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                                 Civics test would be counterproductive! - (GBert)
                                                                 read the voting rights act of 1964 - (daemon)
                                                 Consider yourself forgiven - (jb4) - (29)
                                                     For the individual, or the whole? - (Simon_Jester) - (26)
                                                         Nazi's best result at the polls were 38% - (Arkadiy) - (25)
                                                             Cogent link. Thanks. -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                             Hmmm -- Sound familiar? - (jb4) - (22)
                                                                 You're right, of course. - (mmoffitt) - (21)
                                                                     A much more civilized way of saying - (imric) - (20)
                                                                         Oh.. we *haven't* a 'hierarchy of privilege', then? -NT - (Ashton) - (19)
                                                                             Succinct. Love it. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                 It's the "Dogma of Otherness" all over again... -NT - (inthane-chan)
                                                                             Not legislated. - (imric) - (16)
                                                                                 Sure it is - (jake123) - (15)
                                                                                     Care to elaborate? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (14)
                                                                                         Yep - (jake123) - (13)
                                                                                             How is that legislated? - (imric) - (11)
                                                                                                 You're kidding, right? - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                                                                                                     Don't bother... - (inthane-chan)
                                                                                                     Sure they are. - (imric) - (8)
                                                                                                         No, not easy - (jake123) - (6)
                                                                                                             Bah. - (imric) - (5)
                                                                                                                 {sheesh} Take 2 aspirin and read Animal Farm again.. -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                                                 How can you say that... - (jb4) - (3)
                                                                                                                     And these things infringe on rights exactly how? - (imric) - (2)
                                                                                                                         Clue 1: According to the US Supreme Court, Money == Speech. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                                                                                             Izzatso? - (imric)
                                                                                                         Rich and poor alike have the same prohibition. - (Silverlock)
                                                                                             Well, that's not legislated - (Arkadiy)
                                                             The acronym TPOTPS doesn't have quite the ring of, - (Ashton)
                                                     Now THAT'S a question - (imric) - (1)
                                                         Like Picard said to the Borg... - (jb4)

No. Only those you need.
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