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Post #189,454
by mmoffitt
1/9/05 10:57:33 AM
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New So you'd rather Halliburton get it than the tsunami victims?
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Post #189,459
by daemon
1/9/05 11:15:11 AM
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New naw, raytheon, what are the vics gonna spend it on, food?
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #189,471
by imric
1/9/05 12:21:25 PM
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New *sigh* All I said was that he had a point re:
using tax revenue for humanitarian aid.

Not that I'd prefer that the US didn't give it.

Further, I believe that the overwhelming majority of the US wants to give this aid. Since the funds ostensibly belong to the people, using it for aid is OK (at least from a moral standpoint).

What I want is for the US to be fiscally responsible, that's all. I am NOT - repeat: NOT - an extremist like David Holcberg.

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Post #189,487
by Arkadiy
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1/9/05 1:57:12 PM
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New Well, he says that Govt has no right to spend taxes
and you say that Govt has no right to spend money it borrowed. In his case, the money should go back to the taxpayers, in your case, (I guess) to the bondholders. Right?


I do know that I built a strawman. I do know that you and Ayn Rand Institute are worlds apart. But is it not funny when such a different premises bring different peope to (outwardly) similar conclusions?

There is one premise that you folks share, though. Both you and Rand fans think that human nature is, in essense, good. Yours and theirs definitions of "good" may differ, but the premises do sound the same.
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     Is the US being stingy with aid to Tsunami victims? - (bluke) - (61) - Dec. 29, 2004, 06:06:48 AM EST
         Japan and EU are gioving less than US at the moment - (Arkadiy) - (28) - Dec. 29, 2004, 12:06:06 PM EST
             $10.66M+ to ARCDR on Amazon. -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 1, 2005, 09:39:53 AM EST
             Think of it relative to our wealth - (xtensive) - (22) - Dec. 29, 2004, 02:33:09 PM EST
                 Look at it from the point of veiw of work that needs doing - (Arkadiy) - Dec. 29, 2004, 04:13:48 PM EST
                 As opposed to the lack of wealth in EU? - (bepatient) - (20) - Dec. 30, 2004, 06:47:53 AM EST
                     "by huge multiples"??? Proctomathology, again? - (CRConrad) - (19) - Dec. 30, 2004, 07:58:41 AM EST
                         Re: "by huge multiples"??? Proctomathology, again? - (bepatient) - (18) - Dec. 30, 2004, 08:46:40 AM EST
                             As I thought: No proof. - (CRConrad) - (17) - Dec. 30, 2004, 06:51:06 PM EST
                                 couple of points - (daemon) - (9) - Dec. 30, 2004, 07:18:55 PM EST
                                     Canadian gov has given 40 million CDN so far - (jake123) - (7) - Dec. 30, 2004, 09:54:33 PM EST
                                         Jake the canucks per capita give more than any other - (daemon) - (6) - Dec. 31, 2004, 06:50:36 AM EST
                                             You're frigging well wrong, so shaddappayoface. - (CRConrad) - (4) - Dec. 31, 2004, 09:21:06 AM EST
                                                 :-D - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 31, 2004, 09:22:52 AM EST
                                                     I'm doing my part to make up for Bush. - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Dec. 31, 2004, 10:44:26 AM EST
                                                         Holy HECK, man... Kudos, big ones. -NT - (CRConrad) - Dec. 31, 2004, 11:48:09 AM EST
                                                 so the EU has given 780 million ..l.. pointed right at ya -NT - (daemon) - Dec. 31, 2004, 03:05:21 PM EST
                                             No we don't actually - (jake123) - Dec. 31, 2004, 11:29:48 AM EST
                                     You got one thing right: where the point is at. - (CRConrad) - Dec. 31, 2004, 03:03:47 AM EST
                                 OECD - (bepatient) - (5) - Dec. 30, 2004, 09:54:47 PM EST
                                     "OECD - Look it up"? Sure; what, where? - (CRConrad) - (4) - Dec. 31, 2004, 02:47:15 AM EST
                                         The $35 mln figure is days old. - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Dec. 31, 2004, 11:58:33 AM EST
                                             And it will get larger... - (bepatient) - (1) - Dec. 31, 2004, 02:16:13 PM EST
                                                 amen -NT - (SpiceWare) - Jan. 3, 2005, 05:13:18 PM EST
                                         Do you have a reference for that? - (ben_tilly) - Dec. 31, 2004, 05:18:17 PM EST
                                 For the record - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 3, 2005, 04:27:05 PM EST
             But at the time of the comment, the US only promised $15.... - (Simon_Jester) - Dec. 29, 2004, 04:26:36 PM EST
             But the govt *is* the public ... innit? -NT - (drewk) - (2) - Dec. 29, 2004, 05:16:02 PM EST
                 Gah, what a Soviet thing to say. Party and People Are United -NT - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Dec. 29, 2004, 05:17:09 PM EST
                     Oops, forgot about that - (drewk) - Dec. 29, 2004, 05:57:55 PM EST
         well apparently Egelander - (daemon) - Dec. 29, 2004, 05:20:09 PM EST
         NY Times: Are We Stingy? Yes - (bluke) - Dec. 30, 2004, 02:51:55 AM EST
         UK = $96M, US = $35M as at 31/12/04 00:22 GMT - (pwhysall) - Dec. 30, 2004, 07:22:03 PM EST
         American contribution hiked to $350M as at 21:19 31/12/2004 -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Dec. 31, 2004, 04:19:23 PM EST
             Now we're talking. -NT - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Dec. 31, 2004, 05:10:49 PM EST
                 Much better, no? - (pwhysall) - Dec. 31, 2004, 05:18:30 PM EST
         Japanese pledge $500M. -NT - (pwhysall) - Jan. 1, 2005, 09:52:01 AM EST
         This whole tit for tat is mostly futile - (scoenye) - Jan. 1, 2005, 02:25:49 PM EST
         Those darned stingy Americans - (bepatient) - (3) - Jan. 3, 2005, 07:03:06 PM EST
             Or 20 ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt) - Jan. 3, 2005, 08:20:48 PM EST
             No need for petulance - (Ashton) - Jan. 3, 2005, 09:50:14 PM EST
             chuckle... - (Simon_Jester) - Jan. 4, 2005, 04:52:04 PM EST
         WTH? - (mmoffitt) - (19) - Jan. 5, 2005, 08:03:24 PM EST
             Ha! -NT - (Another Scott) - Jan. 5, 2005, 08:04:01 PM EST
             The opposites attract - (Arkadiy) - (17) - Jan. 7, 2005, 07:09:23 PM EST
                 The. Ayn. Rand. Institute. !.?.!. - (Ashton) - (16) - Jan. 7, 2005, 09:11:40 PM EST
                     It's a point, Ash. - (imric) - (15) - Jan. 8, 2005, 01:40:28 AM EST
                         Really? - (Another Scott) - (8) - Jan. 8, 2005, 10:22:22 AM EST
                             specific purposes are described in the constitution - (daemon) - (7) - Jan. 8, 2005, 10:25:32 AM EST
                                 Maybe I'm dense. I don't see it in Article 1, Section 8. - (Another Scott) - (6) - Jan. 8, 2005, 10:37:57 AM EST
                                     look further up :-) - (daemon) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2005, 11:07:14 AM EST
                                         We're talking about slightly different things. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2005, 12:16:30 PM EST
                                             reason for that - (daemon) - Jan. 9, 2005, 12:24:04 AM EST
                                     And Tsunami relief is what part of - (imric) - (2) - Jan. 8, 2005, 11:09:37 AM EST
                                         the same reason gunboats went up the yellow river - (daemon) - Jan. 8, 2005, 11:30:36 AM EST
                                         Methinks you goofed. - (jb4) - Jan. 13, 2005, 07:12:42 PM EST
                         Blah...strict constitutionalists - (Simon_Jester) - (1) - Jan. 8, 2005, 07:19:56 PM EST
                             *grin* Another point. -NT - (imric) - Jan. 8, 2005, 08:57:05 PM EST
                         So you'd rather Halliburton get it than the tsunami victims? -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Jan. 9, 2005, 10:57:33 AM EST
                             naw, raytheon, what are the vics gonna spend it on, food? -NT - (daemon) - Jan. 9, 2005, 11:15:11 AM EST
                             *sigh* All I said was that he had a point re: - (imric) - Jan. 9, 2005, 12:21:25 PM EST
                             Well, he says that Govt has no right to spend taxes - (Arkadiy) - Jan. 9, 2005, 01:57:12 PM EST

Impossible.
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