Post #188,255
12/27/04 10:11:50 AM
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...on BOTH scales!
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Post #188,314
12/27/04 4:15:39 PM
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But not on Kelvin
Incidentally did you know that it is possible to go below absolute zero? [link|http://www.maxwellian.demon.co.uk/art/esa/negkelvin/negkelvin.html|http://www.maxwellia...in/negkelvin.html]
Cheers, Ben
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Post #188,384
12/28/04 9:39:54 AM
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Kelvin is for geeks who insist on unsigned longs!
jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #188,422
12/28/04 6:34:46 PM
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Temperature is not an integer!
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,424
12/28/04 6:48:51 PM
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uuuuhhh....
...who said each integer represents an integer number of degrees?
(/me shucks and jives deftly...and ducks just in time... ;-) )
jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #188,435
12/28/04 8:09:34 PM
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Not quite quickly enough
There are applications where temperatures in the hundreds of millions need to be recorded, and others where temperatures have been measured down to 0.00000002 K.
A long on a standard PC architecture will not handle that range. Nor will a long on any architecture that we're likely to have in the next 30 years.
In short, there's a reason to use floats - and this is one of them.
Cheers, Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,449
12/29/04 1:46:18 AM
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Sounds like a reason to use decimal, to me.
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Post #188,453
12/29/04 3:21:11 AM
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Which 'property' has the greatest range?
'Physical property' re 'matter' within the cosmos, that is. ["''" since matter <--> energy appears to be about as evanescent as is intelligence...]
Years ago, I heard an argument that it is
Resistance, as in Ohms. Any demurrals?
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Post #188,474
12/29/04 11:45:09 AM
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Depends on the units, doesn't it?
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Post #188,476
12/29/04 12:15:02 PM
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I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Once can, in principle, smash an awful lot of massless, chargeless particles through a unit area. E.g. for a [link|http://www.atmob.org/old_discuss_archive/msg00785.html|recent hypernova]: I measured the hypernova to be at mag 12.8 at 23 UT on Feb. 9. Considering that M74 is 146 million light years away, it got me to wonder at the total energy of this massive event that we are witnessing. As the parameters of my CCD are known, I realized that I could in fact calculate the total photon flux emanating from this star. I performed the calculation, and the total visible light photon flux from this hypernova is 1.99x10(51) photons per sec!! (the 51 is an exponent of course). It is also 1.7x10(56) photons per day at its peak!!! This is an enormous number. There have been only 4.5x10(17) sec since the universe was created to put this number in perspective!!! Resistances can easily range from zero (superconductors) to 10^12 ohms or so. I don't know of things that are higher off-hand. Sound pressure levels are typically described in dB. The Space Shuttle makes a noise of around 200 dB, IIRC, on liftoff. That's [link|http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-soundlevel.htm|100 MW/m^2]. Pretty big, but not big enough. Noise from a hypernova is probably pretty big too... My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #188,481
12/29/04 12:33:53 PM
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I prefer High Energy Protons.
;-)
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Post #188,536
12/29/04 11:43:09 PM
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Took me a loooooooooong time to think to Google on that. ;-)
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Post #188,520
12/29/04 7:19:41 PM
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Re: I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Umm 'range'; analog quantity: reciprocals become pretty vast as one approaches that "zero". But then we get into epistmological arguments.. He pumping of excitation states? and such.
Can't reproduce the logic; guess I'll have to ask around. Came from an exper. physicist, one slow afternoon..
As for Trevor, re protons and such.. Hey!! That's *my* line, you wanker/plagiarist!
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Post #188,528
12/29/04 8:19:38 PM
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Resistance isn't analog.
We all recall Ohm's Law, right?
V = I*R
or
R = V / I
I is electric current, V is electric potential drop, R is resistance. Electric current is usually carried by electrons. Quanta. :-)
Cheers, Scott. (In the end, everything's digital...)
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Post #188,529
12/29/04 8:21:51 PM
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It is, however, useless (and/or futile).
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #188,530
12/29/04 8:23:41 PM
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Help! There's a punster amongst us! :-D
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Post #188,544
12/30/04 6:40:22 AM
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Right. It's a particle. No, it's a wave. It's a wavicle.
Di-gi-tal - a purely jelloware invention to accomodate the turgid mentation of the current dominant species, (in its waning tenure; soon to be replaced by Gaia for incorrigible vandalism - I hear).
But since 'DC' is YAN approximation - for convenience in calculation - we'd best go back to impedance and all that successive approximation with umm fluxions and their successors.
(And yes, I know that - as Bob Pease has reported.. there are certain lo-noise jFets with which you can virtually 'count' these handy 'electron' thingies, in the fA range - see, I said it would get down to epistemology, especially for those folks who still imagine the merely observable-part of the Cosmos can be squashed into some digital format.)
Next we'd have to take on the 'unit of length' and that awkward infinite-digit wavelength of a certain bunch of excited Cs atoms -- ya can't measure the current/time without a length and time Ref. Or is time er 'corpuscular', too? But is it Real? Got a time-arrow handy re the anti-matter conundrum?
And so it goes. A digital Cosmos is a Neoconman/Bushie-style Cosmos; an analog Cosmos is a Mozartean Cosmos. Pick your World.
Carefully. j-;
(In the end, everything's digital... up-for-Grabs) Love. It.
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Post #188,557
12/30/04 11:36:28 AM
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Irony writ large
A digital Cosmos is $foo; an analog Cosmos is $bar. Pick your World. Nice argument against digital thinking there, Ash. :-P
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Post #188,569
12/30/04 12:35:17 PM
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*GRIN*
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Post #188,636
12/30/04 10:31:51 PM
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There are [n \ufffd sq.root (-1)] 'worlds'.___At least.__ Enjoy!
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Post #188,523
12/29/04 7:30:03 PM
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well that would be reasonable as their is no known upper
limit (there is but we havnt found it yet.) I like the plasma theory below but for sheer density what would the impedance of a singularity? regards, daemon
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