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New Yeah, well, "tsk, tsk" yersel' - whogivesaflying...
Celsius was a Swede, and therefore a logical person; you sub-tropical philistines are cordially invited to learn Celsius-speak from those of us who know.

Lesson 1: Temperatures above zero are "X degrees warm"; below, "Y degrees cold".

Now write that down on the blackboard Z times a day for a week, and then we'll get to lesson two.


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New If I ever take up Swedish, I'll keep that tip in mind
But I won't use the Swedish idiom while talking in English. And I won't walk around expecting others to either. :-P

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Australianisms.
Since most of our fair country experiences below freezing temperatures varying to extremely infrequently to not at all, "10 degrees C cold" is idiomatically above zero. If we were referring to -10 degC, it would be idiomatically "10 below".

Wade.

Is it enough to love
Is it enough to breathe
Somebody rip my heart out
And leave me here to bleed
 
Is it enough to die
Somebody save my life
I'd rather be Anything but Ordinary
Please

-- "Anything but Ordinary" by Avril Lavigne.

New It is the same usage where I've been in the USA
And we do get below 0...

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New ...on BOTH scales!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New But not on Kelvin
Incidentally did you know that it is possible to go below absolute zero? [link|http://www.maxwellian.demon.co.uk/art/esa/negkelvin/negkelvin.html|http://www.maxwellia...in/negkelvin.html]

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Kelvin is for geeks who insist on unsigned longs!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Temperature is not an integer!
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New uuuuhhh....
...who said each integer represents an integer number of degrees?


(/me shucks and jives deftly...and ducks just in time... ;-) )
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Not quite quickly enough
There are applications where temperatures in the hundreds of millions need to be recorded, and others where temperatures have been measured down to 0.00000002 K.

A long on a standard PC architecture will not handle that range. Nor will a long on any architecture that we're likely to have in the next 30 years.

In short, there's a reason to use floats - and this is one of them.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
New Sounds like a reason to use decimal, to me.
New Which 'property' has the greatest range?
'Physical property' re 'matter' within the cosmos, that is.
["''" since matter <--> energy appears to be about as evanescent as is intelligence...]












Years ago, I heard an argument that it is





Resistance, as in Ohms.
Any demurrals?


New Depends on the units, doesn't it?
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New I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Once can, in principle, smash an awful lot of massless, chargeless particles through a unit area. E.g. for a [link|http://www.atmob.org/old_discuss_archive/msg00785.html|recent hypernova]:

I measured the hypernova to be at mag 12.8 at
23 UT on Feb. 9. Considering that M74 is 146 million light years away,
it got me to wonder at the total energy of this massive event that we
are witnessing. As the parameters of my CCD are known, I realized that I
could in fact calculate the total photon flux emanating from this star.
I performed the calculation, and the total visible light photon flux
from this hypernova is 1.99x10(51) photons per sec!! (the 51 is an
exponent of course). It is also 1.7x10(56) photons per day at its
peak!!! This is an enormous number. There have been only 4.5x10(17) sec
since the universe was created to put this number in perspective!!!


Resistances can easily range from zero (superconductors) to 10^12 ohms or so. I don't know of things that are higher off-hand.

Sound pressure levels are typically described in dB. The Space Shuttle makes a noise of around 200 dB, IIRC, on liftoff. That's [link|http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-soundlevel.htm|100 MW/m^2]. Pretty big, but not big enough. Noise from a hypernova is probably pretty big too...

My $0.02.

Cheers,
Scott.
New I prefer High Energy Protons.
;-)


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New Took me a loooooooooong time to think to Google on that. ;-)
New Re: I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Umm 'range'; analog quantity: reciprocals become pretty vast as one approaches that "zero". But then we get into epistmological arguments.. He pumping of excitation states? and such.

Can't reproduce the logic; guess I'll have to ask around. Came from an exper. physicist, one slow afternoon..



As for Trevor, re protons and such..
Hey!! That's *my* line, you wanker/plagiarist!
New Resistance isn't analog.
We all recall Ohm's Law, right?

V = I*R

or

R = V / I

I is electric current, V is electric potential drop, R is resistance. Electric current is usually carried by electrons. Quanta. :-)

Cheers,
Scott.
(In the end, everything's digital...)
New It is, however, useless (and/or futile).
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
New Help! There's a punster amongst us! :-D
New Right. It's a particle. No, it's a wave. It's a wavicle.
Di-gi-tal - a purely jelloware invention to accomodate the turgid mentation of the current dominant species, (in its waning tenure; soon to be replaced by Gaia for incorrigible vandalism - I hear).

But since 'DC' is YAN approximation - for convenience in calculation - we'd best go back to impedance and all that successive approximation with umm fluxions and their successors.

(And yes, I know that - as Bob Pease has reported.. there are certain lo-noise jFets with which you can virtually 'count' these handy 'electron' thingies, in the fA range - see, I said it would get down to epistemology, especially for those folks who still imagine the merely observable-part of the Cosmos can be squashed into some digital format.)

Next we'd have to take on the 'unit of length' and that awkward infinite-digit wavelength of a certain bunch of excited Cs atoms -- ya can't measure the current/time without a length and time Ref. Or is time er 'corpuscular', too? But is it Real? Got a time-arrow handy re the anti-matter conundrum?

And so it goes. A digital Cosmos is a Neoconman/Bushie-style Cosmos; an analog Cosmos is a Mozartean Cosmos. Pick your World.


Carefully. j-;


(In the end, everything's digital... up-for-Grabs)
Love. It.
New Irony writ large
A digital Cosmos is $foo; an analog Cosmos is $bar. Pick your World.
Nice argument against digital thinking there, Ash. :-P
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New *GRIN*
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
 
 
New There are [n \ufffd sq.root (-1)] 'worlds'.___At least.__ Enjoy!
New well that would be reasonable as their is no known upper
limit (there is but we havnt found it yet.) I like the plasma theory below but for sheer density what would the impedance of a singularity?
regards,
daemon
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New I want to lambast you
but I'll save it for later
-----------------------------------------
How do you convince a Washington Journalist that you're not slapping him in the face?

Tell him you're not.
New what does cooking mutton have to do with CRC?
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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     Happy winter solstice, y'all! - (a6l6e6x) - (55)
         **shiver** Thanx, I think... *shiver** - (jb4) - (42)
             'Taint cold, just cool. - (jbrabeck) - (41)
                 hehehehe - (jake123)
                 Psycho - (tuberculosis) - (3)
                     Eh, you'll get used to it. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                         I definitely see why there are 3 hot beverage shops - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                             That's for the Californians. - (inthane-chan)
                 Well, yesterday morning it was 13 F (-10.5 C) here. - (a6l6e6x) - (35)
                     I went to a Christmas party on the weekend... - (Meerkat) - (34)
                         Actually, that would be ten below freezing, that would. -NT - (CRConrad) - (32)
                             Below??? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (31)
                                 He's on the other side of the equator, so it's backwards.... - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Come, now! Do I *ever*?!? -NT - (CRConrad)
                                 Yep. 'Coz if it were + 10 C, it would'a been ten C *warm*... -NT - (CRConrad) - (28)
                                     Tsk, tsk - (ben_tilly) - (27)
                                         Yeah, well, "tsk, tsk" yersel' - whogivesaflying... - (CRConrad) - (26)
                                             If I ever take up Swedish, I'll keep that tip in mind - (ben_tilly)
                                             Australianisms. - (static) - (22)
                                                 It is the same usage where I've been in the USA - (ben_tilly) - (21)
                                                     ...on BOTH scales! -NT - (jb4) - (20)
                                                         But not on Kelvin - (ben_tilly) - (19)
                                                             Kelvin is for geeks who insist on unsigned longs! -NT - (jb4) - (18)
                                                                 Temperature is not an integer! -NT - (ben_tilly) - (17)
                                                                     uuuuhhh.... - (jb4) - (16)
                                                                         Not quite quickly enough - (ben_tilly) - (15)
                                                                             Sounds like a reason to use decimal, to me. -NT - (FuManChu)
                                                                             Which 'property' has the greatest range? - (Ashton) - (13)
                                                                                 Depends on the units, doesn't it? -NT - (drewk)
                                                                                 I'd think photon flux would be way up there. - (Another Scott) - (10)
                                                                                     I prefer High Energy Protons. - (pwhysall) - (1)
                                                                                         Took me a loooooooooong time to think to Google on that. ;-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                     Re: I'd think photon flux would be way up there. - (Ashton) - (7)
                                                                                         Resistance isn't analog. - (Another Scott) - (6)
                                                                                             It is, however, useless (and/or futile). -NT - (Meerkat) - (1)
                                                                                                 Help! There's a punster amongst us! :-D -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                                             Right. It's a particle. No, it's a wave. It's a wavicle. - (Ashton) - (3)
                                                                                                 Irony writ large - (drewk) - (2)
                                                                                                     *GRIN* -NT - (imric)
                                                                                                     There are [n \ufffd sq.root (-1)] 'worlds'.___At least.__ Enjoy! -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                 well that would be reasonable as their is no known upper - (daemon)
                                             I want to lambast you - (Silverlock) - (1)
                                                 what does cooking mutton have to do with CRC? -NT - (daemon)
                         It's all relative. - (a6l6e6x)
         Merry meet again - (ben_tilly)
         GRR____LRPD____ and Now! - (Ashton)
         Re: Happy winter solstice, y'all! - (rcareaga) - (3)
             Your mother was an astronaut? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                 Re: Your mother was an astronaut? - (rcareaga) - (1)
                     Ha! :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
         Today's high temp down here - (lincoln) - (3)
             Come here, lots of frost - (Nightowl) - (1)
                 That's a heatwave. Current -2\ufffdF, Wind -16\ufffdF. :-) -NT - (jbrabeck)
             High today: 19F - (Yendor)
         Thanks and You, too. 'Tis the true reason for the season ;0) -NT - (mmoffitt)
         May the Bluebird of Happiness fly up your nose - (Ashton)

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