Post #187,639
12/21/04 7:54:14 AM
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Happy winter solstice, y'all!
Celebrated at [link|http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/wiltshire/4112735.stm| Stonehenge] as well as [link|http://thestar.com.my/news/story.asp?file=/2004/12/21/nation/9713126&sec=nation|China].
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #187,653
12/21/04 11:09:02 AM
12/21/04 11:10:51 AM
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**shiver** Thanx, I think... *shiver**
**shiver** Only th-th-three and-d-d a h-h-half more m-m-m-onths unt-t-til t-t-tee t-t-time **shiver**
jb4
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Edited by jb4
Dec. 21, 2004, 11:10:51 AM EST
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Post #187,656
12/21/04 12:04:08 PM
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'Taint cold, just cool.
Why it's a balmy 8\ufffdF (-13\ufffdC) air temp with a wind chill of -11\ufffdF (-24\ufffdC). I don't get my winter jacket out until the air temp is consistly below -20\ufffdF (-29\ufffdC) or the windchill is consistly below -30\ufffdF (-35\ufffdC).
We FINALLY received some snow. Just enough to turn grass white. Since temps are predicted to remain steady until Sunday, looks like we might have another white Christmas.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #187,664
12/21/04 1:59:30 PM
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hehehehe
The night before last the thermometer nearly reached that magic point where celsius and farenheit are the same number; to wit, -40°. It actually hit -38°C, which is about -36°F.
That's a fairly cold January or February night in Montréal, but for Kingston it's positively arctic. The temperature went from 2°C on Sunday morning to -38°C Sunday night, and then last night it started to warm up again with a projected high later today of 2°C (app. 36°F). At one point on Sunday evening, the temperature was dropping about 10°C (18°F) an hour.
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Post #187,665
12/21/04 1:59:47 PM
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Psycho
It got down to the high 20's last night with dense fog (could hardly see the dock from the deck). That kind of temp/humidity will chill the bones.
I ended up at the harbor pub sucking down a couple hot buttered rums before bed last night. That helped a lot.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #187,671
12/21/04 2:25:12 PM
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Eh, you'll get used to it.
It freaks my wife out how I keep forgetting to put on a coat in the morning when I go out - "It's not cold enough to need it!" I say...
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #187,686
12/21/04 3:39:32 PM
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I definitely see why there are 3 hot beverage shops
on every corner of Seattle.
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #187,688
12/21/04 3:47:48 PM
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That's for the Californians.
Us natives don't need that piss-water.
"Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
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Post #187,675
12/21/04 2:40:56 PM
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Well, yesterday morning it was 13 F (-10.5 C) here.
That's unusually cold for here. The low in Charlotte over the past 25 years was for me 5 F (-15 C). In the 14 years living in Upstate New York, the low was -26 F ( -32 C ) and probably not a winter went by that didn't get below -20 F (-29 C) at least once. There was one two week period in NY when it never got above 0 F (-18 C). But, it's still not Minnesota. :)
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #187,745
12/21/04 10:08:27 PM
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I went to a Christmas party on the weekend...
... where the temperature was a tolerable 38 degrees. Celsius, of course.
I think you folk are champions for surviving winter - I whinge and moan when I have to head off to work in 10 degree C cold. That's freezing, that is! :)
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #187,787
12/22/04 3:19:48 AM
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Actually, that would be ten below freezing, that would.
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Post #187,861
12/22/04 4:13:32 PM
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Below???
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Post #187,882
12/22/04 5:34:17 PM
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He's on the other side of the equator, so it's backwards....
Either that, or CRC made a misteak.
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #187,983
12/23/04 4:29:24 PM
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Come, now! Do I *ever*?!?
Uh, never mind; don't feel forced to answer that...
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Post #187,982
12/23/04 4:27:07 PM
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Yep. 'Coz if it were + 10 C, it would'a been ten C *warm*...
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Post #187,989
12/23/04 4:53:16 PM
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Tsk, tsk
To an Australian, 10 C is cold. -10 C is colder.
Or at least that matches both how I'd read that sentence, and what I understand the climate to be where Meerkat lives.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #187,991
12/23/04 5:14:41 PM
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Yeah, well, "tsk, tsk" yersel' - whogivesaflying...
Celsius was a Swede, and therefore a logical person; you sub-tropical philistines are cordially invited to learn Celsius-speak from those of us who know.
Lesson 1: Temperatures above zero are "X degrees warm"; below, "Y degrees cold".
Now write that down on the blackboard Z times a day for a week, and then we'll get to lesson two.
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(I live in Finland, and my e-mail in-box is at the Saunalahti company.)
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Post #188,019
12/23/04 7:08:35 PM
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If I ever take up Swedish, I'll keep that tip in mind
But I won't use the Swedish idiom while talking in English. And I won't walk around expecting others to either. :-P
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,023
12/23/04 7:26:52 PM
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Australianisms.
Since most of our fair country experiences below freezing temperatures varying to extremely infrequently to not at all, "10 degrees C cold" is idiomatically above zero. If we were referring to -10 degC, it would be idiomatically "10 below".
Wade.
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Is it enough to breathe
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Post #188,039
12/23/04 9:17:55 PM
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It is the same usage where I've been in the USA
And we do get below 0...
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,255
12/27/04 10:11:50 AM
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...on BOTH scales!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #188,314
12/27/04 4:15:39 PM
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But not on Kelvin
Incidentally did you know that it is possible to go below absolute zero? [link|http://www.maxwellian.demon.co.uk/art/esa/negkelvin/negkelvin.html|http://www.maxwellia...in/negkelvin.html]
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,384
12/28/04 9:39:54 AM
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Kelvin is for geeks who insist on unsigned longs!
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #188,422
12/28/04 6:34:46 PM
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Temperature is not an integer!
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,424
12/28/04 6:48:51 PM
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uuuuhhh....
...who said each integer represents an integer number of degrees?
(/me shucks and jives deftly...and ducks just in time... ;-) )
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
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Post #188,435
12/28/04 8:09:34 PM
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Not quite quickly enough
There are applications where temperatures in the hundreds of millions need to be recorded, and others where temperatures have been measured down to 0.00000002 K.
A long on a standard PC architecture will not handle that range. Nor will a long on any architecture that we're likely to have in the next 30 years.
In short, there's a reason to use floats - and this is one of them.
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #188,449
12/29/04 1:46:18 AM
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Sounds like a reason to use decimal, to me.
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Post #188,453
12/29/04 3:21:11 AM
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Which 'property' has the greatest range?
'Physical property' re 'matter' within the cosmos, that is.
["''" since matter <--> energy appears to be about as evanescent as is intelligence...]
Years ago, I heard an argument that it is
Resistance, as in Ohms.
Any demurrals?
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Post #188,474
12/29/04 11:45:09 AM
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Depends on the units, doesn't it?
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Post #188,476
12/29/04 12:15:02 PM
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I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Once can, in principle, smash an awful lot of massless, chargeless particles through a unit area. E.g. for a [link|http://www.atmob.org/old_discuss_archive/msg00785.html|recent hypernova]: I measured the hypernova to be at mag 12.8 at
23 UT on Feb. 9. Considering that M74 is 146 million light years away,
it got me to wonder at the total energy of this massive event that we
are witnessing. As the parameters of my CCD are known, I realized that I
could in fact calculate the total photon flux emanating from this star.
I performed the calculation, and the total visible light photon flux
from this hypernova is 1.99x10(51) photons per sec!! (the 51 is an
exponent of course). It is also 1.7x10(56) photons per day at its
peak!!! This is an enormous number. There have been only 4.5x10(17) sec
since the universe was created to put this number in perspective!!! Resistances can easily range from zero (superconductors) to 10^12 ohms or so. I don't know of things that are higher off-hand. Sound pressure levels are typically described in dB. The Space Shuttle makes a noise of around 200 dB, IIRC, on liftoff. That's [link|http://www.sengpielaudio.com/calculator-soundlevel.htm|100 MW/m^2]. Pretty big, but not big enough. Noise from a hypernova is probably pretty big too... My $0.02. Cheers, Scott.
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Post #188,481
12/29/04 12:33:53 PM
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I prefer High Energy Protons.
;-)
Peter
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Post #188,536
12/29/04 11:43:09 PM
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Took me a loooooooooong time to think to Google on that. ;-)
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Post #188,520
12/29/04 7:19:41 PM
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Re: I'd think photon flux would be way up there.
Umm 'range'; analog quantity: reciprocals become pretty vast as one approaches that "zero". But then we get into epistmological arguments.. He pumping of excitation states? and such.
Can't reproduce the logic; guess I'll have to ask around. Came from an exper. physicist, one slow afternoon..
As for Trevor, re protons and such..
Hey!! That's *my* line, you wanker/plagiarist!
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Post #188,528
12/29/04 8:19:38 PM
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Resistance isn't analog.
We all recall Ohm's Law, right?
V = I*R
or
R = V / I
I is electric current, V is electric potential drop, R is resistance. Electric current is usually carried by electrons. Quanta. :-)
Cheers,
Scott.
(In the end, everything's digital...)
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Post #188,529
12/29/04 8:21:51 PM
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It is, however, useless (and/or futile).
Two out of three people wonder where the other one is.
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Post #188,530
12/29/04 8:23:41 PM
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Help! There's a punster amongst us! :-D
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Post #188,544
12/30/04 6:40:22 AM
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Right. It's a particle. No, it's a wave. It's a wavicle.
Di-gi-tal - a purely jelloware invention to accomodate the turgid mentation of the current dominant species, (in its waning tenure; soon to be replaced by Gaia for incorrigible vandalism - I hear).
But since 'DC' is YAN approximation - for convenience in calculation - we'd best go back to impedance and all that successive approximation with umm fluxions and their successors.
(And yes, I know that - as Bob Pease has reported.. there are certain lo-noise jFets with which you can virtually 'count' these handy 'electron' thingies, in the fA range - see, I said it would get down to epistemology, especially for those folks who still imagine the merely observable-part of the Cosmos can be squashed into some digital format.)
Next we'd have to take on the 'unit of length' and that awkward infinite-digit wavelength of a certain bunch of excited Cs atoms -- ya can't measure the current/time without a length and time Ref. Or is time er 'corpuscular', too? But is it Real? Got a time-arrow handy re the anti-matter conundrum?
And so it goes. A digital Cosmos is a Neoconman/Bushie-style Cosmos; an analog Cosmos is a Mozartean Cosmos. Pick your World.
Carefully. j-;
(In the end, everything's digital... up-for-Grabs)
Love. It.
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Post #188,557
12/30/04 11:36:28 AM
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Irony writ large
A digital Cosmos is $foo; an analog Cosmos is $bar. Pick your World. Nice argument against digital thinking there, Ash. :-P ===
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Post #188,569
12/30/04 12:35:17 PM
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*GRIN*
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] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #188,636
12/30/04 10:31:51 PM
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There are [n \ufffd sq.root (-1)] 'worlds'.___At least.__ Enjoy!
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Post #188,523
12/29/04 7:30:03 PM
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well that would be reasonable as their is no known upper
limit (there is but we havnt found it yet.) I like the plasma theory below but for sheer density what would the impedance of a singularity?
regards,
daemon
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Post #188,029
12/23/04 8:59:40 PM
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I want to lambast you
but I'll save it for later
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Tell him you're not.
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Post #188,032
12/23/04 9:10:07 PM
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what does cooking mutton have to do with CRC?
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #187,840
12/22/04 1:10:01 PM
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It's all relative.
I admire folks that survive temperatures where mercury thermometers cannot be used (i.e. mercury solidifies at about -39 degrees C/F) and where if you spit, the spit will solidify and crack before it hits the ground.
Alex
The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt. -- Bertrand Russell
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Post #187,661
12/21/04 1:11:16 PM
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Merry meet again
Santa Monica is a good place to be in December :-)
Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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Post #187,749
12/21/04 10:27:33 PM
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GRR____LRPD____ and Now!
[image|http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40649000/jpg/_40649825_203_henge.jpg||||]
Thou seeth the Genesis Stone(s) !!!
Noteth the twin stone-towers, positioned exactly as in LRPD's compact view.. angled towards the vanishing point
as we approach -->\ufffd Her Irascibleness in abject prostration, at velocity 0.666 C
Yea, Verily Our Cupth Runneth Over
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Post #187,763
12/21/04 11:32:08 PM
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Re: Happy winter solstice, y'all!
This is also the birthday of my ne'er-do-well half-brother, a pleasant fellow who, however, upon inheriting six figures hard upon the deaths of my mother and his father within an 18-month period proceeded to piss the windfall away in a round of parties and sundry consumer goods such that when he got married last year he had to apply to the two chronologically closest male sibs to underwrite brakes and tires so that he could transport self and chubby bride to Las Vegas for the nuptials.
Still, I do remember the day he was born: my mother, 42, and the Apollo 8 astronauts in lunar orbit.
cordially,
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #187,764
12/21/04 11:35:19 PM
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Your mother was an astronaut?
>:-)
Cheers,
Scott.
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Post #187,766
12/21/04 11:45:19 PM
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Re: Your mother was an astronaut?
Space cadet, yes; astronaut, no.
Die Welt ist alles, was der Fall ist.
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Post #187,767
12/21/04 11:46:59 PM
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Ha! :-)
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Post #187,768
12/21/04 11:52:20 PM
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Today's high temp down here
topped the 70 degrees mark on the thermometer around 2 PM this afternoon.
I can't take Christmastime without some frost, at the barest minimum.
lincoln
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Post #187,770
12/21/04 11:55:07 PM
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Come here, lots of frost
It's gonna be 20 degrees tonight and 9 degrees tomorrow.
Brenda
"It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends."
(Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
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Post #187,797
12/22/04 8:37:32 AM
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That's a heatwave. Current -2\ufffdF, Wind -16\ufffdF. :-)
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #187,796
12/22/04 7:45:05 AM
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High today: 19F
Wind chills not getting above +2F all day today. Tonight, down to -6. 3 inches of snow over night tonight, and nothing even approaching 32F until next Monday.
I'm dreaming of a White Christmas....
-YendorMike
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Post #188,463
12/29/04 9:03:19 AM
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Thanks and You, too. 'Tis the true reason for the season ;0)
bcnu,
Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer.
(Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #188,521
12/29/04 7:21:48 PM
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May the Bluebird of Happiness fly up your nose
to coin a phrase..
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