Post #185,443
11/29/04 4:59:03 PM
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To finger out your release and distro...
The uname -a gave me an inkling.
cat /etc/redhat-release
or to find out what release, some distros use /etc/<something>-release or /etc/release-<something>
Other like Debian and such use both /etc/issue* and/or /etc/motd*
basically, I gotsa feeling "RHWS v3.0+patches/updates"
And Todd, you are utterly right, RHWS is utter crap compared to many other easier to manage distros.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,475
11/29/04 7:30:18 PM
8/21/07 6:08:03 AM
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RH 7.2 (Enigma). Enigma? You're telling me.
% cat /etc/redhat-release Red Hat Linux release 7.2 (Enigma)
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,480
11/29/04 7:47:21 PM
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Now you have to wonder.
7.2 is actually quite OLD.
August - 2001. Three and a half years old.
And, let me ask you, you expect 3 1/2 year old (actually more like 4.5 based on the compiler used to make enigma) to actually just RUN Firefox?
Umm, yeah. Okay.
I think your judgement of Linux based on Enigma (redhat 7.2) IS NOT TYPICAL today, using a updated Distro.
Enigma was the second worst (in bugs, security and just flat out problems) redhat release right behind RedHat 6.1, which was compromisable two weeks before it was released.
Try an [link|http://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/ubuntu-releases/.pool/warty-live-i386.iso|Ubuntu LiveCD] in it. Then make a judgement. Of course you'll have to give a few points for running from CD... as the CD Reader is the biggest holdup there.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #185,482
11/29/04 7:59:25 PM
8/21/07 6:08:09 AM
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Yes, now I wonder what we are running
in production.
:-/
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #185,490
11/29/04 8:28:53 PM
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Windows XP was released over 3 years ago :P
That said, IMHO the punctuated equilibrium style of OS releases just isn't suited to Linux and OSS. I imagine that's why many of you use Debian.
-- Chris Altmann
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Post #185,492
11/29/04 8:35:01 PM
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Indeed, indeed.
once a week (for me at the minimum): dselect update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade I live dangerously as well. with Experimental as my default.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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