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New Here's a suggestion, Ben
Neutralize Karl Rove.

Find his long lost lesbian daughter. Find those pedophile pictures he has in his basement. Scrounge up the credit card charges for escort services he used when on the road campaigning for his "moral" puppetcandidate. French sex clubs...the public just loves French sex clubs (just ask Jack Ryan).

The beauty of it is, it doesn't even have to be accurate (this election; indeed, this thread has shown that). Just manufacture some good "evidence" (Hollywood should be good for that), make sure it gets high publicity, repeat every 2-3 months with something new (must reinforce the meme periodically, or the Eloi will forget).

There is a certain Karmic balance of the "his own medicine" approach....
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New reminds me of LBJ
supposedly true story
[link|http://www.bestoftheblogs.com/2003_10_24_bestof.html|http://www.bestofthe...10_24_bestof.html]
I say, let the boys continue to deny it, because part of the denial is retelling the lie. Reminds me of a reportedly true story about LBJ. In one of his heated campaigns for the senate he called in his press aide to issue a release saying that "my wooorthy opponent has carnal knowledge of animals." The press aide immediately says, "Senator, you can't call your opponent a pig-fucker."

"Aaaaah," Lyndon says, "I just want to hear him stand up and deny it." posted by Josh Hammond 8:34 AM Comment (0)
nothing new here.
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
     Thoughts on the election - (JayMehaffey) - (96)
         Personally, I think he's blasphemous - (jake123)
         Thoughts on your thoughts - (bepatient) - (79)
             It's always a tough call - (JayMehaffey) - (48)
                 backing, moore and aclu - (daemon)
                 Wow. - (bepatient) - (10)
                     Re: Wow. - (JayMehaffey) - (9)
                         "so what" about the gay issue. - (bepatient) - (7)
                             Really? - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                 3 of them. - (admin)
                                 why a "civil union" and lets ignore religo marital issues - (daemon) - (2)
                                     So when you have your second heart attack... - (jb4) - (1)
                                         sorry a general power of attourney puts you there - (daemon)
                                 Banning Gay Marriage (new thread) - (tuberculosis)
                             The gay civil union issue is important . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
                         That's exactly the problem - (drewk)
                 "The distain was entirly in your mind. " - (Arkadiy) - (35)
                     As was the post by mmoffitt to this thread. -NT - (altmann) - (1)
                         I give up. I can't find my post in this thread. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                     How utterly Bolshevik of you. - (mmoffitt) - (32)
                         Even though you may disagree, - (Arkadiy) - (31)
                             Yeah, try me - (ben_tilly) - (14)
                                 Believe it or not - (Arkadiy) - (13)
                                     I find that hard to believe - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                         Welcome to the distorted view that the US has of itself - (jake123)
                                         Two of your items pull you to the right: - (Arkadiy) - (10)
                                             Curious look - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                 "In this town, people are what they are percieved to be" -NT - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                                     Perceived by whom? -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                         Actually, I think I misquoted - (Arkadiy)
                                             Civil liberties is a right-wing philosophy? - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                                 Two facts: - (Arkadiy) - (4)
                                                     I've come to find... - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                         I think I have to agree - (Silverlock)
                                                         "average programmer" :) -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                     Well there are multiple "right"s - (ben_tilly)
                             Did someone say howls? - (pwhysall) - (4)
                                 Huh? -NT - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                     Read me in *my* posts. -NT - (pwhysall) - (2)
                                         Oh, I see MM reference, I just don't get how it's connected - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             MM's sig oooO0Oooo - (bepatient)
                             Pure balderdash - language murder 1st Class - (Ashton) - (2)
                                 The language got corrupted, - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                     Miss the whole point about labelling, again? - (Ashton)
                             You "know I call myself a Communist"? - (mmoffitt) - (7)
                                 I seem to remeber reading that in your posts... - (Arkadiy) - (2)
                                     Confused. :-) - (mmoffitt)
                                     he is an OP communist :-) - (daemon)
                                 Uh, here - (broomberg) - (3)
                                     I'd be a communist, but I'm not good enough. Close.... -NT - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                         A good communits is a dead communist - (Arkadiy) - (1)
                                             That sounds like what I heard in church as a tot. - (mmoffitt)
             You haven't been paying attention, have you? - (ben_tilly) - (29)
                 Yes, I have. - (bepatient) - (28)
                     That's an impossible standard to reach - (ben_tilly) - (22)
                         Whatever. - (bepatient) - (21)
                             No, YOU missed the point - (ben_tilly) - (20)
                                 They can try what Tony Blair did. - (Another Scott)
                                 Oh, somehow I don't think so. - (bepatient) - (13)
                                     Yes, let's go back to the gay issue - (ben_tilly) - (12)
                                         Priceless. - (bepatient) - (9)
                                             Suggestion - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                                 How I would've put it - (jake123) - (4)
                                                     And what is a "state's rights issue"? - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                         An issue that is under the purview of the state government - (jake123) - (2)
                                                             A complication for you - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                                 Who said it has to make sense? - (jake123)
                                                 I already told you. - (bepatient)
                                             Not anyone. Just (at least) 50% of 'em... -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                                                 Re: Not anyone. Just (at least) 50% of 'em... - (bepatient)
                                         Another good example - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                                             DING DING DING DING - (bepatient)
                                 Here's a suggestion, Ben - (jb4) - (1)
                                     reminds me of LBJ - (daemon)
                                 No he didn't - (tuberculosis) - (2)
                                     Tippecanoe and Tyler, too. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                         right - the more things change.. - (deSitter)
                     So where do we go from here? - (GBert) - (4)
                         Now, now...be nice... - (Simon_Jester) - (2)
                             Been reading Karl's playbook? 65 kB .gif - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                 You broke it, you bought it. -NT - (admin)
                         Can you get me into Italy? :) -NT - (deSitter)
         Let's roll baby -NT - (deSitter)
         Re: Thoughts on the election - (JvlivsCaesar) - (1)
             you havnt met Jerold Nadler have you? - (daemon)
         found in the local letter to the editor - (daemon)
         Where do I sign up? - (jb4) - (10)
             Nope. Your guy was just elected in Illinois. - (bepatient) - (9)
                 Clear, concise, well spoken, hyper-intelligent != attack dog - (jb4) - (8)
                     Yes it does. - (bepatient) - (7)
                         ObPedanticSpellingNit - it's "rhetoric". - (jake123) - (6)
                             /me crooks his finger and talks to it: - (admin) - (4)
                                 Don't forget to use that "croaky" voice. -NT - (bepatient) - (3)
                                     Nah, high and whiny - (jake123) - (2)
                                         Think he was going for the "Shining" angle. -NT - (bepatient) - (1)
                                             yeah, I just had something different in mind. - (jake123)
                             Ack...what was I thinking? - (bepatient)

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